The Smart People Money Show

Michael Anderson

You're smart, I'm smart, but what do smart people do with their money? And what do smart people "not do" with their money?

Each episode will have talking points and ideas for you. Michael has taught in higher education since 2006, this show has an inside the classroom theme to it. Please enjoy.

All Episodes

Many people are not familiar with the differences of a self-directed IRA... the biggest difference is the fact that you can buy unique assets with this type of account. Listen to what Dan has to say in this episode to learn a little more. Also to dive deeper, checkout

Sep 2019

14 min 50 sec

In today's 15 minute show we discuss two big topics. The first is all about where to park cash that is idle and on the sidelines. Savings accounts and Certificates of Deposit are a good place to look for short term money or RISK-OFF money. In the 2nd half of the show, Spence and I discuss Venmo, paypal, Stripe, Zelle and other services that are being adopted and embraced to help people transfer money with no cost (or low-cost). Tomorrow will be different than today, it always is.

Sep 2019

15 min 1 sec

We all carry an implicit bias to judge people based on the car they drive, shoes they wear, clothes they dress in, vacations they take, so on & so on... we sometimes benchmark our well-being on the perceptions of other's spending, it's a silly proposition because we have no idea how others financial position truly is. Today we shine a light on this topic and discuss it for 10 minutes.

Oct 2019

12 min 40 sec

You might have a good investment strategy but experience unfortunate timing or possibly have a bad implementation which could result in a bad outcome. Often people that experience a bad outcome might struggle to recognize their strategy may have been good but timing or implementation may have been bad. Tom Spence and I discuss a few opportunities to teach children about taxes, charity and income with a currency they understand.

Oct 2019

22 min 9 sec

When is someone ready for a financial advisor? We speak with Katie Brewer, CFP and Founder of Katie is a very well respected financial advisor in the industry and she tells it straight. Enjoy her comments as she shines a light on where people can go for help and when it's right to seek a financial advisor. Tom Spence is in the lunchroom and has lots to share.

Oct 2019

33 min 10 sec

Many do-it-yourself investors are passive in their approach to investing. This isn't bad or good but what are some of the benefits of active if you still have an active investing approach? Tom Spence and Mike Anderson have some more Halloween and frugal commentary.

Oct 2019

17 min 43 sec

How do you assess if you're on target with your finances. There are multiple areas to consider and over time some areas become more relevant than others. Here are 12 principles of personal finance that matter.

Nov 2019

14 min 55 sec

How secure is your income? How secure is your net worth? How secure is the economy? Is your income, net worth and economy "correlated"?

Nov 2019

15 min 55 sec

Tom Spence & Michael Anderson talk tax planning for end of year and we learn about this new term being used "Okay, Boomer"

Nov 2019

11 min 20 sec

We have Greg Blix talking about the real estate sector, renters and how accredited investors participate in private offerings. In the lunchroom, Spence and Mike discuss personal finance in school and a concern with the FIRE movement. Enjoy the show.

Nov 2019

17 min

How do you benchmark yourself? Whom do you compare yourself to financially? Are you meeting you meeting your savings goals? Are you meeting your expenses comfortably? Full-Tilt into the holidays with Spence and Mike in the lunchroom.

Dec 2019

16 min 14 sec

Asking for help... Do you ever ask for help with your personal finances? What are the things you do ask for help with?

Dec 2019

16 min 39 sec

I hope you enjoy this episode, I pulled out the list that Eric Rosenberg and I made for you, 31 Days to Better Finances. Please check out Eric's site and sign up for his free money boot camp, you'll love it.

Dec 2019

9 min 51 sec

Here are a few insights into the content calendar for 2020.

Dec 2019

4 min 40 sec

In this 5 minute podcast I'm going to share 4 of the most common reasons people hire a financial advisor. Enjoy.

Feb 2020

5 min 55 sec

Many people are wondering what options they have for their mortgage, I address a path forward in this 15 minute podcast episode.

Mar 2020

14 min 45 sec

Please check this out if your are a small businesses, self employed individual, sole proprietor or an independent contractors. The application process is more simple than you might imagine. Find more details about the two different types of loans online.  What is a forgivable loan? Learn more online visit &

Apr 2020

5 min 37 sec

Where do I file for Unemployment? We will talk about a few resources you should check out. And why is Uber-eats & door dash a good idea? It's important to limit the exposure to others right now...

Apr 2020

9 min 10 sec

It's April 6th we're on quarantine, many have lost work or been reduced. What jobs are out there? Here are a few ideas in this short 6 minute podcast.

Apr 2020

6 min 56 sec

What will life after quarantine look like?

Apr 2020

11 min 15 sec

Should I start funding retirement or buy my first home?

Jul 2020

18 min 4 sec

What type of investments should I make?

Jul 2020

14 min 46 sec

Mike reflects on his Business Insider Interview from June 2019. Check out the Article Below: Music Credit: Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Aug 2020

5 min 29 sec

On this episode, Mike will be introducing Rachel Graves, Maranantha Financial's Operations Director II and Client Support Manager. To get more information about Maranantha Financial, check us out at Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Aug 2020

7 min 28 sec

Here are 10 questions for you, would you care to share a story about money? Answer one or more of these questions by email (or click the link & record a voice mail to me.) 1) What scares you about money? 2) What do you wish you would have learned at age 22 about money? 3) What did you think was true but actually wasn't about money? 4) What more do you want to learn about money? 5) Are you comfortable with money? 6) What do you waste resources on with money? 7) What age does one need to be thoughtful with money? 8) What did your parents teach you about money? 9) What stories do you have about "saving for tomorrow"? 10) What stories do you have about "living for today"? For more info visit

Aug 2020

7 min 21 sec

Taxes are low and they aren't staying low is my thought! Take a look at the history of taxes in the US! (I've included a pdf). We’re at historic lows right now! The idea for everyone to consider right now, get as much money as possible into ROTH IRA accounts. Doing these Roth Conversions as they are an opportunity now that will provide very beneficial when taxes go UP. Additionally, if there is another market decline, it's going to provide a very good opportunity to do this ROTH conversion! Filling your current bracket is the KEY! I think it makes sense for older people too because they will pass on ROTH IRA that will give their heirs tax free money. What are your thoughts? Email us: *Did you know social security wasn't taxed before 1983? In 1984 they started taxing part of social security.... Kind of scary if you think about it... Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Aug 2020

9 min 50 sec

When you think about how you're investing your money, maybe you have a 401k, an IRA, a retirement funds or investment account. How do you decide how much money is in cash or how much money is in something else, like stocks or in bonds? On this episode, Mike covers how to use the barbel strategy to manage your investments. Check us out at to learn more. Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Sep 2020

15 min 1 sec

On this episode, Mike shares 4 Money Lessons to get rich, with personal finance knowledge. If you are interested in applying the 4 lessons to your specific situation, learn more here: Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Sep 2020

13 min 10 sec

In this episode, Mike shares a personal money story and what motivates him as a Financial Planner. For more information, check out Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Oct 2020

10 min 25 sec

On this week’s episode, Mike explores the difficult conversation of death and personal finance. To learn more, go to, and click the Start Here button. Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Oct 2020

15 min 28 sec

An annuity is a fixed sum of money paid to someone each year, typically for the rest of their life. It's a product that a lot of people don't really like to hear about. And if you don't have one, you probably won't get one. But if you do have one, um, You were probably sold one and you're wondering if it's a good product or not. I don't offer them, as a product that I have for clients, but I do help educate people on them. Oftentimes after speaking with a client, they'll find that an annuity is a good fit for them. WHAT SHOULD YOU KNOW ABOUT YOUR ANNUITY? It is a product that, if used for the wrong reason, it's a very inefficient vehicle. It's like using a Ferrari to take multiple children to school. A much better product would be a school bus, right? You want to use the right vehicle for the objective that you're trying to achieve. Annuity salesmen are sometimes described as contractors, that only have a hammer as a tool. And if you only have the hammer as a tool, then every client begins to look like a nail. Unfortunately, I've seen this to be true in the industry. Some salesmen only sell annuities. So regardless of your situation, you're going to be recommended to have one of these products. And that's the part where I think it's not good. FEES So the first thing to understand is the fees because the fees are what's going to impact performance. If you have a variable annuity, it's going to have fees in there. They're not hiding them, but oftentimes it's, it's going to be 1% to 2% just right off the top for the annuity and that whatever income rider or death benefit rider is included in that annuity. If it's an income rider, there could be a benefit to having that annuity. Conversely, what I often see is, people will have a variable annuity with an income benefit rider, but they'll never use the rider. They'll never use the income. They'll never actually take the benefit of what they've been paying for for a long time in those scenarios, the annuity company wins. So, you definitely want to understand what the fees are. What type of annuity do I have? Is there an income benefit rider or death benefit rider? There's much more to it than that, but that's the first step to get ahead of the game. The second thing that people will say is, “Oh, I have an annuity and I didn't pay any fees”, and it turns out they have a fixed indexed annuity or a fixed annuity. It's not that there's no fees, it's that the fees are included in the way the product is offered. So you don't have to write a check. There's no deduction of fees from what you receive. It's just baked in the cake. You don't really see it, but the insurance company is making some money off of offering this to you. With these index annuities, the salesman will tell you “Oh, this is a wonderful product you can earn”, and they'll spout out a percentage number. For example, they’ll tell you, “This is a great product. When the market goes up, you could earn 9% return from this product”. And in your head, you're thinking what 9% annually. But in reality, they're saying you could get 9% for the total of the four year product. 9% for four years, that's not anything special. That's 2.25% per year. That's hardly better than a savings account. Uh, and that's, that's, what's possible. That's the highest return you could possibly receive. You could also get zero. What I don't like about indexed annuities is that they will often get misquoted, just like the example above. Annuities are tricky. If you already have an annuity and you don't understand it, or you're considering cashing out your annuities it’s best to have a consultation with a financial advisor. I'm a fiduciary, and I'd be happy to review your accounts and talk with you about options for your annuities. If you would like you can get more information go to or email at Disclosure: This is an educational program. I'm not giving you advice. Please, don't take advice from me on this program as I don't know your personal situation. Music by Jay Man | OurMusicBox Website: YouTube:

Nov 2020

17 min 9 sec

Today was the kind of day where I just sat in front of the microphone and spoke for 10 minutes... didn't have notes, sometimes the ideas just flow. We discuss podcasting behind the scenes, technology late adopters, happiness~life correlation... all in 10 minutes time. Enjoy.

Nov 2020

14 min 47 sec

Interest Rates, Home Prices, Retirement taxes with IRA's and distributions along with Roth Conversions. To connect, ask a question or listen to previous episodes please check out

Dec 2020

14 min 9 sec

GameStop and that strategy... A few fun facts and a practical approach to long-term growth with your money. Did you have any "Fear of Missing Out" with $GME? Have you ever considered how the emotions and psychology of investing plays a roll with investing? How much did the $GME trade rely on fundamentals? Email Questions or comments to:

Feb 1

17 min 47 sec

Have you ever baked a cake? Did you determine if it was made perfectly or if there might have been any changes you would have liked to make? This same reasoning can be used with your financial situation, today's show is "How Dry is Your Financial Cake?" We also ask the question, "Is Dave Ramsey Out of Touch?"

Feb 16

13 min 55 sec

Item #1: Have you ever thought about the different emotions that come with not having a job? What happens to the emotions of someone when someone when they get a job? Item #2: What makes someone decide to hire a consultant? Is it the value provided? Is it to avoid potential pain? Item #3: Have you ever taken stock of the unintended outcomes that have occurred in your life? Isn't it interesting how the more prepared you were the better your unintended outcomes were. (note, you can never know this until after the fact) Item #4: It's hard to quantify the benefits of a good advisor but if you're using them right and they are good... it's going to have multiple benefits for you. Do you have a question you would like to hear on the show? Or a question for Michael? email- Want to get a free retirement strategy call? visit

Mar 4

13 min 8 sec

Sometimes a solo-chat is the best. Good information just shows up as the topics unfold.

Jun 2

15 min 59 sec