Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

Pushkin Industries

Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis (Liar's Poker, Moneyball) takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness. It feels like there's less of it every day—whether it comes to lending practices, college admissions, professional sports, or psychological well-being. Who are the people trying to level the playing field, and are they making an impact? Lewis interviews referees (Season 1) and coaches (Season 2) from many walks of life, bringing his trademark insight and wry humor to their stories of (in)equality today.

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Introducing Against the Rules with Michael Lewis
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Presenting: An Excerpt from Miracle And Wonder: Conversations With Paul Simon by Malcolm Gladwell and Bruce Headlam. Download the audiobook today at miracleaudiook.com and receive an exclusive listener's guide pdf featuring additional commentary from Bruce, the producers and editors of Miracle and Wonder. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Nov 22

5 min 30 sec

In this special episode of Against the Rules, Michael Lewis and Eric Vetro talk about their recent role reversal. Listeners will remember Eric as Michael’s singing coach in our last season… Now, Michael has been helping Eric launch his own podcast. Against the Rules is proud to introduce the world to Backstage Pass with Eric Vetro through an excerpt featuring Ariana Grande, one of his many famous voice students. Eric has inspired so many stars, he’s inspired Michael, and we think he’ll do the same for you. You can hear more Backstage Pass episodes at http://podcasts.pushkin.fm/atrbackstagepass Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Oct 20

21 min 36 sec

This week, we're presenting an episode of The Happiness Lab. On the show, Yale professor Dr. Laurie Santos shares surprising research and inspiring stories that will change the way you think about happiness.  In this episode, Laurie dives into why athletes, space crews and pop stars all indulge in strange rituals before moments of high stress. It's easy to mock these behaviors - even the people who practice them admit they're a bit weird - but they can act like performance enhancing drugs. Laurie says the research shows that creating a good luck ritual can make us perform better and feel calmer, happier and more confident when faced with life's big moments. You can listen to more episodes of The Happiness Lab at http://podcasts.pushkin.fm/atrhappinesslab Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Aug 30

35 min 9 sec

Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Geraldine Brooks interviews Michael Lewis about his new book “The Premonition: A Pandemic Story.” They also discuss how Michael started his writing career and why growing up in New Orleans made him a better storyteller. This conversation was recorded as part of the Live Talks Los Angeles series and posted May 19, 2021. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Jun 16

50 min 52 sec

Michael Lewis speaks to his friend, the cognitive scientist Dr. Maya Shankar, about her new podcast, A Slight Change of Plans. They discuss Maya’s own life change, why she decided to make a podcast, and what science can teach humans about how we deal with change.  You can subscribe to A Slight Change of Plans at: http://podcasts.pushkin.fm/slight-change-of-plans?sid=atr.drop Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

May 27

40 min 43 sec

In this special bonus episode of Against the Rules, Michael Lewis reads a chapter from his new book about the pandemic, The Premonition —available now wherever books are sold. This episode includes the voice of Charity Dean, former Assistant Director of the California Department of Public Health and one of the medical visionaries featured in the book. And stay around for an exclusive author interview.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 4

35 min 34 sec

I’m hard at work on the next season of Against the Rules, coming this fall. Until then, I wanted to share a new audiobook from my good friend, Malcolm Gladwell. The Bomber Mafia looks at one of the greatest moral challenges of the Second World War. It’s a riveting tale of persistence, obsession, innovation, and the incalculable wages of war. You’ll hear the voices of generals, the sound of aircrafts and bombs crashing. It is history brought to life through the power of audio. You can order the Bomber Mafia now at bombermafia.com. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Apr 6

11 min 40 sec

Can everyone be coached — or are some people beyond help? The transformative power of coaching is put to the test as Michael enlists a coach to help him tackle his greatest fear. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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Jun 2020

47 min 16 sec

Back when coaching didn’t do very much, it didn’t matter who got it and who didn’t. But coaching is clearly getting better and better, and spreading into more areas of life, which means it matters a great deal who gets it and who does not. And the people who don’t get it are often the ones who need it most. A professor attempts to teach the art of landing a joke to America’s next generation of business leaders, but will she tip the scales of privilege even more along the way? We see the other darker side of data coaching in sports, when the weaponization of information enables a cheating scandal that puts an end to a promising pitching career.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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Jun 2020

36 min 43 sec

We explore the quantitative, scientific, and data-driven new frontier of coaching.  Major League baseball is undergoing a coaching revolution from old-school to new tech. We talk to players whose careers were turned around not by a charismatic coach, but by data, and the techies who coach them. We see how data coaching is creeping into the workspace with a computerized conversation coach that has pinned the successful sales pitch down to a science.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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Jun 2020

40 min 3 sec

Colleges today talk a big game about valuing diversity — so why are so many of them failing to retain first-generation students? We meet a homeless straight-A track star and her ad-hoc college application coach to look at why it’s so hard to get into college while rural, poor, and uncoached. We go deep with coaches and students at a non-profit called ScholarMatch, founded by novelist David Eggers, to find out just what it can take to get first-generation college students over the graduation finish line. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2020

45 min 23 sec

Just about anyone today can call themselves a coach. Michael traces this trend back to its source and finds out that the secret to effective coaching lies not in retraining the body, but the mind. We meet the original guru of “the inner game”: Timothy Gallwey, author of the 1974 classic, “The Inner Game of Tennis.” We find out how mental skills coaches only need one coaching toolkit to work with everyone from New York City firefighters, youth softball players, professional musicians, and even writers with a podcast. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2020

51 min 33 sec

Michael revisits his high school days in New Orleans to tell the story of Billy Fitzgerald, the baseball coach who changed his life; and makes the case for the old-school, tough- love coaching that many parents find hard to take these days. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2020

46 min 45 sec

Michael Lewis interviews the Co-Founders of Pushkin Industries, Malcolm Gladwell and Jacob Weisberg, as part of Dell Technologies Small Business Podference, Hear what it's like to start a business with a close friend and how Pushkin Industries is navigating the COVID-19 crisis. Find more episodes from the Small Business Podference at https://delltechnologiespodference.com/. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

May 2020

37 min 30 sec

Credit card companies are making billions of dollars off of people who don’t understand the rules of the money game. Can a good coach help level the playing field? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2020

46 min 25 sec

Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis (Liar's Poker, Moneyball) takes a searing look at what’s happened to fairness. It feels like there's less of it every day—whether it comes to lending practices, college admissions, professional sports, or psychological well-being. Who are the people trying to level the playing field, and are they making an impact? In the second season, Lewis looks at the rise in coaching in American life, bringing his trademark insight and wry humor to their stories of (in)equality today. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Apr 2020

2 min 13 sec

While working on the next season of Against the Rules coming later this spring, Michael Lewis has had some conversations that we didn’t want to hold. Conversations with people who are helping others through the Covid-19 crisis. We’ll hear from a software developer focused on helping the 40 million Americans on food assistance manage their benefits, as well as a teacher on the frontlines of the crisis in New York State. To help those in need, go to givedirectly.org/covid-19. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Mar 2020

21 min 19 sec

A new show from Pushkin Industries: Cautionary Tales. We tell our children unsettling fairy tales to teach them valuable life lessons, but these Cautionary Tales are for the education of the grown ups – and they are all true. Tim Harford (Financial Times, BBC, author of “Messy” and “The Undercover Economist”) brings you stories of awful human error, tragic catastrophes, daring heists and hilarious fiascos. They'll delight you, scare you, but also make you wiser. Featuring original music and an award-winning cast including Alan Cumming and Archie Panjabi (The Good Wife), Toby Stephens (Die Another Day), Russell Tovey (Quantico) – and Malcolm Gladwell. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Nov 2019

36 min 58 sec

Around the launch of Against the Rules, Michael spoke with his friend and co-producer, the author Malcolm Gladwell, at the 92Y in New York. Hear them talk about podcasting, referees, and the magic of “conversational delight.” Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2019

56 min 16 sec

Where is a millisecond worth a million dollars? The New York Stock Exchange.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2019

55 min 49 sec

Judges now want us to know they’re human. But maybe we’d be better off if we didn’t know. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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May 2019

41 min 47 sec

What kind of person makes a neutral referee? It’s not the kind of person you think. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Apr 2019

41 min 28 sec

The authenticator ref absolves everyone of blame. And sometimes generates money out of thin air. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Apr 2019

45 min 8 sec

Everyone hates grammar and ethics cops. Until they need one. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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Apr 2019

44 min 13 sec

The government protects us from some dangerous products, but not from others that, over time, ruin countless lives. Michael has started a Go Fund Me campaign to help Katie finally be free of her student loan burden. If you would like to contribute, visit Katie's Go Fund Me. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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Apr 2019

48 min 12 sec

Rage at referees is all the rage in professional sports. Michael Lewis visits a replay center that’s trying to do the impossible: adjudicate fairness. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

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Apr 2019

39 min 29 sec

Get ready for the launch of Michael Lewis's first podcast, where he takes listeners from student-loan call centers to the courts of Uzbekistan to the new trading hubs of Wall Street (in New Jersey). What happens when fairness can't be enforced? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Mar 2019

2 min 37 sec