China Unscripted

Chris Chappell

From the team that brought you the satirical TV news show China Uncensored comes a...well...less scripted look at China. Chris Chappell and his team are off the teleprompter and on the mic to interview China experts, or discuss the issues of the day. And frankly, anything else they feel like discussing.

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Tennis star Peng Shuai hasn't been in the public eye much since she accused former top communist party official Zhang Gaoli of sexually assaulting her. The only glimpses the public has had into her life have been tightly choreographed videos and photos put out by state-run media and the International Olympic Committee, which has been working closely with China to host the 2022 winter Olympics in Beijing. In this Just Us episode of China Unscripted, we discuss Peng Shuai, China’s bullying in the South China Sea, the CCP’s attempt to erase the memory of the Tiananmen Square Massacre, the US standing up for Taiwan, and China’s horrific family planning policies.

Nov 29

1 hr 11 min

In December of 2018, Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig were arrested in China, allegedly on spying charges. This happened days after Canada's detention of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou at the request of the US. Meng was accused of lying to British bank HSBC about Huawei's affiliate Skycom and its connections to Iran, which put the bank afoul of US sanctions. Meng fought the US's extradition request, and in September 2021, the Biden administration worked out a deferred prosecution agreement with Meng in return for her admission that she misled HSBC about Huawei's relationship with Skycom. In this episode of China Unscripted, we are joined by Fen Hampson, the chancellor’s professor at Carleton University and president of the World Refugee & Migration Council, and Mike Blanchfield, the international affairs writer for The Canadian Press. They are the authors of the book: The Two Michaels: Innocent Canadian Captives and High Stakes Espionage in the US-China Cyber War.

Nov 22

58 min 21 sec

In this "Just Us" episode of China Unscripted, we discuss how US companies are funding China's tech dominance, our trips to Hong Kong, how to buy not made in China and Quantum Leap, among other things.

Nov 15

1 hr 10 min

The way the US has treated China for decades has not led to the outcomes it hoped for. Now the US is meeting China where it is, not where the US wants it to be. The big question now is can the US disentangle itself from China in a way that doesn't hurt Americans, and does it have what it takes to stand up to China in all the arenas that China is challenging it in. Joining us in this episode of China Unscripted is David Stilwell, the former Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of East Asian and Pacific Affairs during the Trump administration and the director of the China Strategic Focus Group at U.S. Indo-Pacific Command.

Nov 8

1 hr 13 min

China has been threatening war over Taiwan and has grown increasingly aggressive towards its neighbors and adversaries around the world. There has been a lot of speculation about how an authoritarian state like China would fare against a Western democracy like the United States. We discuss that plus India's relationship with Taiwan, the US-India alliance, and the balance of power in the Indo-Pacific region. Joining us in this episode is Professor M.D. Nalapat, the director of the department of geopolitics and international relations at India’s Manipal University.

Nov 1

50 min 51 sec

Japan is facing an existential crisis over Taiwan and with its elections in the lower house later this month, how Japan faces the Taiwan issue could change dramatically. Joining us in this episode of China Unscripted is Dr. Robert D. Eldridge, an expert on Japan’s security and diplomacy and a senior researcher at the Japan Forum for Strategic Studies.

Oct 25

1 hr 5 min

Got a dictator? Looking to overthrow him/her? In this episode, we talk with a man who’s been training activists to do just that. From his start as young activist raging against the machine of Slobodan Milošević in Serbia, he's become an internationally recognized organizer. He steps us through the essentials of a successful movement, shares inspiring and humorous stories from his background, and gives his opinion on what went right and what went wrong in Hong Kong. His name is Srdja Popovic, and he's the cofounder of the Centre for Applied Nonviolent Action and Strategies (CANVAS), as well as the author of Blueprint for Revolution.

Oct 18

1 hr 25 min

The US, UK, and Australia are teaming up against China in a new alliance called AUKUS. Of course, the leaders of these countries won't outright say that's the reason, but that's the reason. In this episode of China Unscripted, we talk about the US leading the world on China messaging, what could happen if China takes Taiwan, and former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott's trip to Taiwan, among other things. Joining us in this episode is Lincoln Parker, the chair of Australia's Liberal Party defence policy branch.

Oct 11

1 hr 16 min

The Chinese Communist Party has for years been suppressing its ethnic Uyghur minority, many of whom are Muslim. It has put over a million of them in internment camps, forced Uyghur women to get abortions and undergo sterilization, and killed them for their organs, among other atrocities. A people's tribunal in the UK is probing whether what China is doing to the Uyghur people is genocide. On this episode of China Unscripted, we look at what this tribunal could accomplish, how power politics affect human rights in China, and why the secret ingredient in your lipstick might be genocide. Joining us in this episode is Ethan Gutmann, an investigative journalist and author of “The Slaughter: Mass Killings, Organ Harvesting, and China's Secret Solution to Its Dissident Problem” and “Losing the New China: A Story of American Commerce, Desire, and Betrayal”.

Sep 27

1 hr 7 min

Desmond Shum, who was raised in Hong Kong, said he didn't understand how to play China's business game until he met his wife, Whitney Duan. They made a fortune together, and as a result she became China's wealthiest female entrepreneur. But when Xi Jinping came to power, Shum saw the writing on the wall for business in China. He and Duan divorced and Shum moved to the UK. In 2017, Duan disappeared. After she went missing, Shum wanted to leave their son his account of what had happened, which led to his tell-all book about doing business in China called "Red Roulette: An Insider's Story of Wealth, Power, Corruption, and Vengeance in Today's China".

Sep 20

1 hr 3 min

China has 5 bases in the Antarctic, but no one except China really knows what takes place on them. The U.S. and other countries that are supposed to be monitoring the bases have been lax about checking, and there is evidence to suggest China's doing more than just scientific research down there. Joining us on this episode of China Unscripted is Alex Gray, a senior fellow in national security affairs at the American Foreign Policy Council. He served on the U.S. National Security Council staff from 2018 to 2021, including as director for Oceania and Indo-Pacific Security. 

Sep 15

1 hr 5 min

When China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001, the U.S. thought China's membership in the international organization would encourage it to liberalize. Thought leaders and US policymakers believed, or wanted to believe, that it would not only help decrease the trade deficit the US had with China, but would encourage China to become a responsible global citizen. However that didn’t happen, and in fact, the opposite happened. What went wrong and why were the policymakers in Washington so naive? Joining us in this episode of China Unscripted is Clyde Prestowitz, the author of “The World Turned Upside Down: America, China, and the Struggle for Global Leadership”. He was also a leader of the first U.S. trade mission to China in 1982 and is a veteran U.S. trade negotiator and presidential advisor.

Sep 13

1 hr 14 min

China has been closely watching the U.S. pullout of Afghanistan and is using it to make the case to Taiwan that the U.S. won’t come to its aid when ( not “if”) China invades it. It's also looking at what it can do to replace the U.S. in the region. Joining us in this episode of China Unscripted is Jim Fanell, a retired U.S. Naval Intelligence officer who specialized in Indo-Asia Pacific security affairs, with an emphasis on the Chinese navy and its operations.

Aug 23

1 hr 12 min

China has made it no secret that it wants to control the world. It's been using political warfare to achieve that goal, and it's seen some success. What is political warfare and what can we do to stop China from becoming a global hegemon? We discuss that and more in this episode of China Unscripted. Joining us is Professor Kerry Gershaneck, the author of the book "Political Warfare: Strategies for Combating China’s Plan to 'Win Without Fighting.'"

Aug 16

1 hr 13 min

Chinese money has not brought good things to Bolivia. Whether it's the illegal wildfires around the Amazon that have destroyed hundreds of thousands of acres, the dams that are projected to displace indigenous people and destroy the environment, or illegal gold mining, Chinese deals have not been good for the South American Country. Joining us in this episode is Jhanisse Vaca Daza, the co-founder of Standing Rivers, a non-violent citizen movement focused on human and environmental rights in Bolivia. Other episodes mentioned in this podcast: Bad Chinese Dams Could Kill Thousands in Malaysia #50 How Bolivia Overthrew Evo Morales—Was it a Coup? You can follow Jhanisse on: Twitter @JhanisseVDaza Instagram @jhanivd Facebook Jhanisse Vaca Daza Her website Her organization Standing Rivers in English: Twitter @StandingRivers In Spanish: Twitter @RiosDePie Facebook @RiosDePie Instagram @riosdepie Don't forget to subscribe to the channel! And check out our other channel China Uncensored: Our social media: Twitter: Facebook: Instagram:

Aug 9

1 hr 7 min

China has been going around the world signing development deals with countries in an initiative it calls Belt and Road, formerly One Belt One Road. It’s a massive infrastructure project that was started in 2013 and goes from East Asia to Europe. The goal of the program seems benign—invest in other countries’ infrastructure using Chinese engineering and manufacturing. But like most things the Chinese Communist Party touches, it has come with corruption, subversion, and deceit. Are we seeing the expansion of Chinese communist colonialism? Joining us in this episode of China Unscripted is Dr. Rachel Winston, a professor and author of several books about China, including “Belts and Roads Under Beijing's Thumb.”

Aug 2

1 hr 14 min

Check out CuriosityStream: How the U.S. and its allies respond to China in the Indo-Pacific could have major repercussions for decades to come. That's because China is trying to get a foothold in the area, and if the U.S. and its allies don't increase their presence there, China will—with very real consequences for geopolitics, national security and trade. Joining us in this episode of China Unscripted is Cleo Paskal, an associate fellow in the Energy, Environment and Resources Program and Asia-Pacific Program at Chatham House. She's also the research lead on Chatham House’s project on perceptions of strategic shifts in the Indo-Pacific from the points of view of the United States, the United Kingdom, India, Japan, Oceania and France. Follow her on Twitter @CleoPaskal

Jul 26

1 hr 25 min

For years, the U.S. medical mask market has been flooded by cheap Chinese masks that, thanks to Chinese government subsidies, have made it impossible for U.S. businesses to compete. Joining us in this episode is Mike Bowen, the co-owner of U.S. mask company Prestige Ameritch. He says he has been warning anyone who will listen that allowing China to dominate the mask market is a national security threat to the U.S. After a continuous PPE shortage in the U.S., why aren't we listening to him yet?

Jul 19

1 hr 24 min

On this episode of China Unscripted, we discuss the cult-like behaviors of the Chinese Communist Party, how China has the "best" human rights record on the planet, how China wants to decouple from the U.S., what China's space ambitions mean for the rest of the world, and what we would do if we could go back in time and change history.

Jul 12

1 hr 23 min

In this episode of China Unscripted, we discuss the origins of the coronavirus, or the CCP virus as we call it, secret research going on in the Wuhan Institute of Virology, what concerned Americans can do about China's rise, the Chinese Communist Party's 100 years of lies, and why the U.S. 1% likes the Chinese Communist Party. Joining us for this podcast is Jack Posobiec, the editor of the digital news site Human Events. You can follow Jack on Twitter @JackPosobiec Read his work on His book is called "The Antifa: Stories From Inside the Black Bloc"

Jul 5

1 hr 20 min

Freedoms in Hong Kong have been significantly eroded since the national security law was passed one year ago. The law allows extradition to mainland China, which means that people who anger Beijing are no longer safe in the city. We sat down with Hong Kong Watch Co-founder and Chief Executive Benedict Rogers to talk about the effect this law has had over the past year. You can follow Benedict Rogers on Twitter at And Hong Kong Watch at

Jun 28

1 hr 12 min

North Korean Defector Yeonmi Park joins us today to talk about her experiences fleeing North Korea, and discovering Communism and Marxism in America during her time at Columbia University. Is "woke culture" making the United States even crazier than North Korea? Check out Yeonmi's YouTube Channel—Voice of North Korea And check out her interview with Jordan Peterson!

Jun 21

1 hr 34 min

Check out Daily Pnut - world news in a nutshell: China is waging a drug war against the West, using triads, the criminal underground, and corrupt Canadian officials in Vancouver for money laundering and human trafficking. The "Vancouver Model" connects fentanyl dealing to Hong Kong and Macau, fueling an opioid crisis in around the world. Joining us today is Sam Cooper. He’s an award winning Canadian investigative journalist and author of the new book Willful Blindness: How a network of narcos, tycoons and CCP agents Infiltrated the West. Read Sam Cooper’s Book, Willful Blindness: Follow Sam Cooper on Twitter!

Jun 7

1 hr 6 min

Check out CuriosityStream:  Use Code: CHINAUNSCRIPTED Did you know the US can't make its own penicillin? Or aspirin? China has dominated the global supply chain for medicine. And that came back to bite when the coronavirus pandemic struck. We were dependent on medical supplies of PPE's from China. And the Chinese Communist Party used that against us. Joining us today is Rosemary Gibson, co- author of China Rx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine. Follow Rosemary Gibson on Twitter: @rosemary100 Read her book “China Rx”:

May 31

1 hr 7 min

Check out Daily Pnut - world news in a nutshell: China has already begun the war for Taiwan. Will the rest of the world respond in time? Joining us once again is Ian Easton, senior director of the Project 2049 Institute and author of “The Chinese Invasion Threat: Taiwan’s Defense and American Strategy in Asia.” 

May 24

1 hr 14 min

China's crackdown on Hong Kong intensifies as the National Security Law gives Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam and Hong Kong police powers to go after freedom of the press. And when that doesn't work, the CCP uses thugs to attacks journalists. Epoch Times reporter Sarah Liang joins us to talk about the man who assaulted her with a bat in broad daylight.

May 17

59 min 44 sec

China is building a New World Order, and the Belt and Road Initiative is the key. Joining us today on China Unscripted is Toufic Sarieddine, a Lebanese graduate scholar enrolled in the Graduate School of International Development at Nagoya University, Japan. This episode is sponsored by Drake Illusion! Check out Drake Illusion: Use promo code: For Subscription Plan “Professional” : Unscripted40 “Enterprise” : Unscripted50 “Ultimate”: Unscripted60

May 10

1 hr 6 min

The Chinese Communist Party has fooled Western Companies and businesses, like Elon Musk and Tesla, into coming into China to make their fortune. But it always comes back to bite them. Why is the US China relationship defined by so much ignorance? On this episode of China Unscripted, the team takes a look at what the West gets consistently wrong about China.

May 4

1 hr 4 min

How did a peaceful qigong and meditation practice practice based on Buddhist principles become the biggest threat to the Chinese Communist Party? Joining us today on China Unscripted is Levi Browde. He’s the Executive Director of the Falun Dafa Information Center. It’s an organization dedicated to ending the human rights abuses against Falun Gong in China. Check out Daily Pnut - world news in a nutshell: Defiance in the Kingdom of Fake News: Tiananmen Square Hoax: False Fire: What is Falun Gong and Why is it Persecuted? Falun Dafa Information Center: 

Apr 26

1 hr 6 min

The Chinese Communist Party is forging ahead with a plan for world domination. But can the Quad, an alliance of the US, Japan, Australia, and India, save the Indo Pacific and the rest of the world from an authoritarian nightmare? Joining us on this China Unscripted is Cleo Paskal from Chatham House & Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

Apr 19

1 hr 30 min

The Chinese Communist Party has annihilated Hong Kong freedom and democracy, but that was only just the beginning. On this China Unscripted, we're joined by Max Mok, a Hong Kong activist based in Australia and member of the activist group Hongkonger Protection Against Chinese Expansion. twitter @maxmokchito instagram @mokchimax instagram @hkpaceofficial

Apr 12

1 hr 18 min

Chinese Communist Party aggression is creating a rift between China and the West. US China relations have had the tone set at the US China meeting in Anchorage, Alaska, as American allies sanction China for genocide against the Uyghur Muslims in China. And as the CCP demolishes Hong Kong freedoms and threatens an invasion of Taiwan, is a new Cold War brewing?

Apr 5

1 hr 9 min

Socialism turns failure into an institution. But what is Socialism? What is Communism? What is Democratic Socialism? On this episode of China Unscripted, we take a deep dive into Karl Marx and the Communist Manifesto. Joining us is Joshua Philipp, host of Crossroads. Check out his channel! Our previous interviews with Joshua Philipp Part 1: The Origins of Communism and Its Tactics Part 2: How Communism Destroys a Society

Mar 29

1 hr 5 min

The world debates whether what the Chinese Communist Party is doing to Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang, China is genocide. The US China relationship is strong thanks to decades of elite capture in Wall Street and Capitol Hill. Will the Biden Administration stand up for the Uyghurs? On this episode of China Unscripted, joining us is writer, linguist, Uyghur activist, and President of the President of the Uyghur Help Organization, Abduweli Ayup.

Mar 22

1 hr 7 min

China has promised to invade Taiwan and the day the Chinese military might actually do that under Xi Jinping is closer. And if Taiwan falls, the West falls as well. How does Taiwan US relations fit under the Joe Biden China policy? Joining us on this China Unscripted is Grant Newsham, a retired U.S. Marine Colonel. He’s now a Research Fellow at the Center for Security Policy

Mar 15

1 hr 14 min

Chinese leader Xi Jinping declares the US the biggest threat to the Chinese Communist Party. He also tells cadres to take up the Communist spirit of struggle. How will the Biden China policy reflect the growing realities of US China relations? More on this week's China Unscripted!

Mar 8

1 hr 1 min

The Chinese Communist Party has been quietly taking over Europe, spinning the EU China relationship to its advantage. The EU China Deal was good for the China economy, but did nothing for human rights in China. But there are signs China's attempts to use the Belt and Road Initiative to get into China may be failing. Joining China Unscripted today to talk about China's influence in Europe is Theresa Fallon director of the center for Russia Europe Asia studies.

Mar 2

1 hr 9 min

Taiwan deployed missile defense systems in response to an incursion by the Chinese military into Taiwanese airspace. The Taiwan Strait is on the brink of war as Taiwan President Tsai Ing-Wen waits to see how the Biden China relationship develops. That story and more on this China Unscripted.

Feb 22

57 min 26 sec

President Joe Biden had his first call with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. But what will the Biden China policy look like? There's still a lot of questions on the horizon. On this episode of China Unscripted, we talk about the direction of US China policy under the Biden Administration.

Feb 15

52 min 38 sec

Universal Health Care and socialist medicine may sound appealing, but in China, the healthcare system is supported by money from crimes against humanity—organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience like Falun Gong practitioners and Uyghur Muslims. And it should set the tone for China at the UN and Biden China relations. Joining us today on China Unscripted is award winning human rights lawyer David Matas.

Feb 8

52 min 8 sec

The fight for Hong Kong is far from over. The China's National Security Law may have led to the arrest of pro-democracy legislators and activists like Joshua Wong, and harassment of Jimmy Lai and Apple Daily, but Hong Kong protesters haven't given up. Joining us today is Joyce Ho, the founder and director of Project Black Mask. Follow Project Black Mask on Facebook YouTube Twitter @projblackmask And Joyce Ho on her Instagram

Feb 2

37 min 58 sec

Has real communism ever been tried? You bet! On this episode of China Unscripted, we take a break from all the insanity with a play through of the Hasbro board game Monopoly Socialism, where we reject our capitalist tendencies and work together to create a prosperous Utopian society! Or kill each other in the process.

Jan 25

1 hr 4 min

Uncle Roger, aka Nigel Ng, censored YouTube celebrity foodie Mike Chen because of "incorrect" remarks about China. Things like mentioning the Tiananmen Square Massacre, Hong Kong protesters' fight for freedom, and practicing Falun Gong, or Falun Dafa, the persecuted spiritual practice targeted by former Chinese leader Jiang Zemin. On this China Unscripted, a chilling example of how Chinese Communist Party propaganda and censorship reaches even into the United States. Mike's Channel!

Jan 18

49 min 46 sec

Laowhy86 and Serpentza (Cmilk and Winston) from ADV China join China Unscripted for a 100th episode celebration! We talk about their efforts to give the world some notice for the first coronavirus update, the situation in Hong Kong as the national security law strikes at Hong Kong protests, how the Chinese Communist Party controls the narrative and influences America, and why YouTube may be coopted by the CCP. Plus more great stories from Laowhy86 and Serpentza about living in China, life as an expat, and struggles with the wumao. Laowhy86's YouTube Channel SerpentZA's YouTube Channel Their Joint Channel ADV China And the new ADV Podcast

Jan 11

1 hr 14 min

A new China EU trade deal has shocked the world, as the US and human rights defenders criticize the deal pushed forward by German Chancellor Angela Merkel. Even as China violates WTO trade rules, subjugates Hong Kong, and holds concentration camps in Xinjiang for Uyghur Muslims, the EU China deal has no way to hold China or the Chinese Communist Party accountable for human rights violations. Europe's financial deep state loves the deal and the CCP loves the boon to the China economy. But don't worry, we keep it light on this China Unscripted.

Jan 4

46 min 52 sec

China is playing the long game to influence and infiltrate Canada and Canadian society. From hostage diplomacy—the kidnapping of two Canadian citiznes Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor in retaliation for the arrest of Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou, to the China military training with the Canadian military, to more subtle economic subversion by the China economy. And the Trudeau family, including current Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, has a big role to play. On this China Unscripted China podcast, Cleo Paskal from Chatham House and Foundation for Defense of Democracies joins us! Check out Cleo's Interview on China Uncensored! Canada's Pro-China Deep State

Jan 1

1 hr 1 min

Why is South Korea's president Moon Jae In trying to appease North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un? And was South Korea's April legislative election rigged by China and Huawei? As growing anti-American sentiment and pro Communist ideology spreads in South Korea, US China relations may be thrown into disarray. And there are disturbing signs that what happened in South Korea and China could be happening in the United States today. Joining us on this full episode of the China Unscripted china podcast is Yeonmi Park, North Korean defector and author. Check out Yeonmi's channel!

Dec 2020

1 hr 4 min

Southern Mongolia, or Inner Mongolia as the Chinese Communist Party calls it, erupted in some of the biggest protests in China since the 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacred, because of a campaign of cultural genocide that would have banned the Mongolian language from schools in Southern Mongolia. But these are the descendants of Genghis Khan. Civil unrest was a given and a new wave Mongol resistance enters into Chinese history despite martial law. They weren't going to give up without a fight. The situation for Mongols is very similar as the Uyghurs in Xinjiang. Joining us on today's China Unscripted is Enghebatu Togochog Director of the Southern Mongolian Human Rights Information Center!

Dec 2020

1 hr 1 min

China is waging a political war against the United States. This is a US China Cold War that the US has been unwilling or unable to fight. As we can see with Chinese influence operations targeting Hunter Biden, or Chinese agents like Fang Fang getting close to Rep. Eric Swalwell, or lobbying from Wall Street, the Chinese Communist Party is very successful and elite capture and influencing Americans in this modern warfare. Is there any way for the US to fight back? And what would a Biden Administration's China policy look like? Joining us on this episode of China Unscripted is Professor Kerry Gershaneck, from National Chengchi University in Taipei. Download the Book!

Dec 2020

1 hr 5 min

China has launched a global war on religion and belief. That's obvious from the Chinese Communist Party's persecution of Uyghurs, Falun Gong practitioners, and House Christians. And the coronavirus has been one more excuse for China to crackdown on religion. But Communism strikes at the very core of American first amendment values of freedom or belief and freedom of speech. Worldwide, there is a growing rift between traditional values and modern materialistic Marxism. And this war is even being fought in the United States. What will this mean for US China relations? Joining us today on China Unscripted is Marco Respinti, Director in Charge of Bitter Winter, an online magazine documenting religious persecution and human rights in China

Dec 2020

1 hr 17 min