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Tah and Kole Whitty

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Mar 5

1 hr 11 min

The Psychedelic Space 0:33 Hey Jose, how's it going? Jose Martinez 0:35 Good morning. How are you? The Psychedelic Space 0:37 So good. So since we've got a couple minutes, so we're gonna start I'm gonna play a song. And we can ping some folks in for the next three or so minutes and then we'll jump into it sound good? Jose Martinez 0:49 Awesome. Unknown Speaker 0:50 Awesome. Jose Martinez 1:03 So you don't God Unknown Speaker 1:07 the people didn't make me nervous. Unknown Speaker 1:21 The best Jose Martinez 1:45 every Joe. All right, The Psychedelic Space 3:27 that pretty much brings us right to 1230 Central time. And I am so excited Jose to have you here today. For anyone chiming in right now I'm really excited for y'all to meet Jose, besides being incredibly just like, the word that I'm looking for is like enthusiastic, but like you're the characteristics that you exhibit are so extraordinary, that I'm excited for people to get to know you a little better, just from what I've heard you so far. So just to kick us off, Jose, can you just tell us a little bit about you. And we're just going to kind of go into conversation, I do want everyone to know this session is being recorded. So if you decide you want to come up on stage, if you go to my profile, and scroll down to the little red dots, you can text the word consent to 22999, that'll ask you a couple questions just to get consent for you to be on the recording. And then we'll have a point where you could come up and also talk to Jose or ask questions or just interact. So Jose, let's start just by how do you identify currently in your life? Who is Jose today? Jose Martinez 4:45 Good morning. Thank you for having me. It's an absolute pleasure to be on stage with you. I'm currently I was actually asking myself this about a month ago, like how do I see myself now. So the way I describe myself is I'm Triple amputee Parris server. I am currently ranked third in the world as an adaptive surfer, surfing for Team USA. And guy. I became this way, I guess after being hurt in Afghanistan, I stepped on the 60 pound ID that almost took my life away, it instantly took both my right and left leg and snapped off. Pretty much a little bit above the elbow on my right arm. I describe myself as inspirational human, I want to continue to motivate and inspire people that feel like they're at the verge of jumping off a cliff. I just want to help. I want to help those that feel like they're, they're done with the world, I want to help those see the beauty in life all over again. And the only way I know how to do that is by showing the world. After I woke up, I was told that I'll never have the life I have. I used to have. I mean, he told me never walk again. They told me I'd be in a wheelchair for the rest of my life. They pretty much just slapped me with reality. I mean, their reality, because that's how they've, they've seen humans, but I guess they've never seen the human like me. And I know humans like me exist, we just, we have a hard shell and exterior that we're afraid to actually push out of. And I'm here just to try to help motivate the world to see a beauty and perspective in life. The Psychedelic Space 6:46 Thank you, Jose, I think that, you know, the opportunity that people have just to hear individual story stories puts things in perspective a bit. You know, it's been 20 years since I woke up from a coma. And I flatlined on the table, and I had many times in my life, especially back then I was dealing with a lot of trauma and nothing remotely close to yours, as far as the the after effects. But in that time, it took me almost eight years to actually find gratitude for even still being alive, because I didn't want to. And there was a lot of even anger at moments of why did they recessives hate me, because it took the paddles and I flatlined a few times and all of that stuff. And so as you were going through this, who was Jose before this happened, like was there a lot of stuff going on in your life that how would you have identified yourself before this happened? Who was Jose then if you were just gonna come up with some version of it. Jose Martinez 7:49 To be realistic with you, I was absolutely lost. In all reality, I had just lost my job. I was a human resource manager for a staffing agency, I did a lot of hiring and firing little did a lot of accounts payable, accounts receivable. And in 2008, because I didn't have a diploma I was let go. And I was absolutely lost. I didn't know what to do. Now, I didn't have enough money to go back to school because I had my own place that I had to take care of. I was taking care of my brother trying to help him finish up with high school because he was a football and basketball player. So I was trying to help make sure he had all the stuff that he needed shoes. uniform, whatever the case may be. So I tried to help my mom as much as possible. To be honest with you, I came from a very, very broken home. My dad was an abusive alcoholic. He left my mother and I pregnant when I was five years old. And I remember being homeless I remember not having a dad to be honest with you. I didn't have a guidance, I didn't have a lot of help. I felt lost most of my life to be honest with you. And a it was crushing. I felt completely lost when I was on my way to Afghanistan. In reality, I was hoping that maybe my life would be taken away so they could tell my mom that I'm a hero. So she could know that all the energy, the time that she put in coming from a third world country to try to live a better life here. It wasn't wasted and I didn't waste your time and I felt I felt worthless to be honest with you on my way to Afghanistan. And I no one knew this. I mean, all I would do is work out I I used to run 12 miles a day before we actually went to war. It was my way to keep my own sanity. I would just talk to myself and and tell myself Today's not the day to die, you know, I was scared that if I let myself go that I was just gonna either drink myself to death, and the driving off a cliff or something from being drunk. And I didn't want to hurt anybody. So I was, I would try to just keep my mind constantly running. And the only way I knew how to keep a calm was by writing. So I would run 12 miles a day and try to keep myself sane. No one. None of my brothers that were at war with me ever knew stuff like this. I just kept myself pretty calm, I was always happy. But it was all up front, because I knew that if I was in a bad mood, then a lot of us would end up being in the bad mood, a lot of my guys look to me for just for a sense of hope, to be honest with you. I mean, I, I've been in some bad stuff before. And I know how to get out of bad situations, you know, so a lot of people ended up looking at me for a sense of hope, because I mean, that war were in horrible, horrible situation. So I was completely lost, I was hoping that I would actually die. And when they revived me and I came back, and I woke up 10 days later in the hospital, back in Walter Reed in Baltimore, Maryland. I, I, I was kind of upset. I remember actually closing my eyes. And just really wishing that I was back in Afghanistan, hoping that everything was just a dream. Because I remember everything I remember, to finish what happened. I remember the pain. I remember the conversations that I was having with one of my brothers, I remember that all the conversations that I was having with all my brothers, to the point where actually, I was just talking to one of my boys the other day, that got hurt with me. And he was telling me, he told me, he goes, Martinez, I saw you die three times. And I saw them bring you back to life three times in the helicopter. I couldn't believe it. You know, and I, I had known that they really tried reviving me a couple of times, I didn't know how severe the it really was. And when I woke up, and I realized that my right arm was missing. And I realized that everything was not a dream. And it was actually reality. I I felt even more worthless. I felt like I I couldn't go out there and die. I couldn't go out there and come back all all in one piece. Like I in a sense, I mean, I don't know if you guys believe in God, but I felt like God was just slapping me in the face kind of laughing at me. At least that's the mentality that I had after I got hurt. And it was absolutely overwhelming and depressing. I became so depressed I I was scared, I started getting scared I I was lost for a very, very long time. And it like you said, it took you a very long time to appreciate life. And I felt all up until I'm actually celebrating nine years as of tomorrow to the date of my accident. And I guess it's taken me a good four years out of those nine years to be grateful, and to really, really start appreciating life the way I really should. The Psychedelic Space 13:37 Right. So as a first of all, thank you for I mean, you really just went there, you know, like it is clear your commitment to really showing up for people in the way you're allowing yourself to fully be seen. And I think that's something that isn't discussed very often is some of the conditions of our soldiers before they even go into war. You know, because so many I have so many friends that went to war as well, because they were at risk youth. Because I was an at risk youth I went to at risk schools, which also means most of my friends, right? We were kind of we were on our the last hope of society with the schools we went to or the programs we were a part of, and recruiters would come to our school and offer to expunge your record if you signed up for the military. And so I had many friends going that we're coming from really, really traumatic childhoods and so we're sending, you know, young folks out to war that have been raised in war their entire life emotionally, physically, environmentally, and a lot of times we talk about, you know, our soldiers, our soldiers post war, but we don't talk about what was all happening before. Then you send people into very traumatic environments where it just compounds so it's no wonder that so many comeback just really feeling fractured and splintered and, and lost. What drove you to join the military? Was it the, you know, the helping to support your mom? What was that process to get you to go towards joining the military to begin with? Jose Martinez 15:19 I i've growing up in LA, I've always known how to hustle and always make money. So I was really, really tired of just trying to make ends meet and just trying to live off the next dollar or whatnot. It was to the point where greed started becoming a factor in my life. And I started absolutely hating myself I, I, I started hating while I was becoming Knight, I didn't realize what I was doing over money thinking that this is what was going to solve all my problems. So I figured I'm like, you know what, the military doesn't pay much. It's gonna, if I use the military, right, it's gonna allow me to actually take care of the schooling because I wasn't an action. I actually graduated a semester early for my high school, I graduated with AP and honors, I numbers is my thing. So I actually did almost six years of math in high school, I think I went all the way to like, calculus, two or something like some something above trigonometry, if I remember if I'm correct. I, I was a smart kid, I just because of my situations, I started becoming bad. And I started becoming really good at being bad. To the point where cops pulled me over. There was stuff in the car or whatnot, and I just talked my way out of it. And I started scaring myself, I didn't want to become someone that my mom absolutely despised. So I told myself, like, you know, what, the military is gonna make me go into a hole, because they're not gonna pay me anything. So I'm naturally going to be nothing. It's going to give me a place to live, it's gonna give me some food. And it's, again, like I said, if I use it, right, it's gonna allow me to advance somewhere in life. And I figured if I do like it, I would love to do 20 to 30 years in the military, because I started realizing what they actually do, they wake up and work out. So they make sure that they're taken care of before everything else gets taken care of. And that's a system that I started employing after I joined the military. So it's, it's mental structure, and I knew that that was going to happen, because I filed back, I was either gonna get beat up. I'm from all the movies that I've seen, I didn't know exactly how the military works, and, or, they were going to kick me out. And that was going to be worse. So that was gonna be like, if I went to a job, and then just messed everything up in there. I didn't want something like that in my record. So I figured if I can do something that's going to bring me down to life, it's going to make me restructure myself, then, by all means, let's do it. And by the way, I really didn't like myself. So if we're gonna go to war, literally see if I'm even worth living here. And that was honestly, my mentality. It was I wanted to see if I was worth living. The funny thing about when I stepped on the IED two weeks before that, I remember like, kind of realizing what life is truly about. And it's honestly about just living in the moment, at least for me, is living in the moment, enjoying your surroundings and trying to lift those around us. I would see a lot of the local people that we were around a lot of Afghani people, they all they needed were their cattle, their crops, and their loved ones. And they're really, really happy. And they're absolutely in the middle of nowhere. And I started realizing that you can be joyful no matter where you are. And it's a state of mind. So I told myself two weeks before actually step on the ID, that if I do make it back, then I'm going to try my best to change my aspect of life and try to try to be the best person that I can be. So that was a promise that I made. Two weeks later, I stepped on an ID. And again, I don't know if you guys believe in God or whatnot, but that was kind of my test, or his type to me was alright, well let you if you really mean that let's give you another little battle and see if you're really worth your own words, you know, and so that's why I say something I feel like God was slapping me in the face, but it's just a little test that he's been giving me because I i I'm saying it out loud what I really want and he's testing me to see if I'm worthy. The Psychedelic Space 19:58 As a you said, So much there, you know, when I really when I sit and consider just some of the the tragedies and, you know, again, I still on the other side of my traumas have all of my lens and when I hear, and when I have the privilege of having you just to converse and for other people to consider, it is perspective that allows us to make different choices, right. And it's like for me, aside from I did have pretty I mean, I had significant brain injury from my coma just from losing oxygen. And that was a couple year process. But again, it's something that I that I could entirely heal with time and intention and attention. And so after, after this happened, what tools and resources Did you find as far as community or support or prayer or? Because I, what I cannot imagine is reconciling that because again, just looking at it, where my mind was after my coma, like I can't even consider because I don't know where I was, if I, I had already, you know, had suicide attempts. And so I don't know if I would have been as strong as you are back then. And that's like being honest, that's not like in a consideration, but just seeing how I barely was there to begin with, Unknown Speaker 21:25 what, The Psychedelic Space 21:26 what decision did you make to stay? What was it that got you to decide to find some way to keep going, what was it for you? Jose Martinez 21:37 Be honest with you, it was a mixture of a lot of things. So at the time, I was speaking to my wife, which was my girlfriend at the time. And she was one of the persons one of the persons that actually never left my side. So I remember having what was it 15 surgeries. And then after all my surgeries, they allowed me to come to the west coast. And I remember the first time coming into San Diego, when I was recovering at the Naval Medical Center, one of the first he came over and she never left my side. That was one key. I feel like having a good support system behind you is always a key and recovering. I had my best friend that was actually seeing everything he's been with me since I was 1213 years old. And he would go over when I was still at Walter Reed, like, visit me and try to see me as much as possible every other weekend. I remember waking up after all of this and thinking like, there's no way I'm alive. Like there's no way this is actually true. Like there's there's absolutely no way you know, and it got scary for a moment because i i i was becoming aggravate more and more aggravated more mean, I remember I I would kick out my therapist, every single time I would see a male therapist going into my room, I would just absolutely obliterate Lee cussed them out to the point where they felt scared and threatened. They're like, Alright, Jose, like you got to really, really stop like this is extreme. And I thought and I would tell them, I was like, just don't send any guys to my room, please. So they started sending women to my room. And of course, I my mom has taught me how to be respectful. Since I've been growing up and to a female, I can't be a jerk. I mean, guys can take it, you know, they know I don't really mean it. But I feel like if I would tell some of the things that I would say to a female, it would actually really change their perspective of wanting to help. So they tricked me. And they just started they kept sending emails over to to help me recover. And I just gave him I'm like, you know what? Screw it. They want to help. I don't know how far this is gonna help but I mean, let's see how far we can go. Yeah, I what I started doing was just getting in I I realized that a lot of the things that I was making decisions for where the wrong decisions because of the state of mind that I was in. So at that point in time, I figured I'm like I'm not even in the state of mind to even try to understand how to recover and help myself. So why not just allow the people that want the best for me, helped me recover. So that was always a key factor for me. And to be honest with you, I actually became addicted to opiates. I I was on 50 to 100 plus pills on a daily basis just to try to subside all my pain. My pain was extremely matriculating. If you touch your butt cheek, and you touch the bone that you have on that budget on my right side, I don't have anything past that. So Even to sit on a wheelchair, I'm sitting on a wheelchair for 1012 plus hours a day, sometimes my back is absolutely in pain, I feel everything. I I, even to this day, there's times where I wake up randomly, or sometimes I snap into it and start feeling everything go off, all my nerves go off and start remembering the pain of the day that I got hurt. I it's, it's such an extreme pain that it's an instant pain. It's like someone putting a torch to your legs, someone just sticking a knife right through your back. Anything that you would think excruciating, I like to explain it to people that have given birth. Just picture yourself giving birth, and I'm pretty sure that's probably some of the pain that I've gone through on a daily basis. You know, specifically like around 10 o'clock at night, when my body's really, really starting to relax. It's an extreme and excruciating pain that I go through. So I at the time, I was taking so many pills that I started becoming a zombie. I started having all these suicidal thoughts all over again, more and more and more. And I, I hated myself all over again, I, I hated the person that I had become, I felt like an absolute failure. And I was telling my Dad, I'm like, I need to get off of these things. You know, I need to get off of the lyric, I need to get off of the oxy I need to get off of all these, all these meds that just keep messing me up. And I remember going to the doctor and the doctor telling me Well, before you get off of it, you have to make your dose go up a bit higher, and then you lower it. And my thought process was you're going to give a crackhead more crack before you tell him to get off of the crack. To me, it made no sense. But that's what they said. And in all honesty, I have an addictive personality. So I know if I have one, I'm not going to stop myself from having 234 10 1520 you know, so what I did was grabbed all the pills, threw them all away. And I went through the battle. I remember going through the cold sweats feeling like I'm gonna die. I felt like a drug addict, I I never done any type of pills. I've never done any type of drugs. I smoke cannabis. And that's as far as I take it. But I don't do any of these other things that have absolutely shutting down your nervous system and stuff like that. And I realized that I was actually an addicted person, because of all the pills that I was on. And once I got off of them, I got out of the military. The first thing I did, I started smoking cannabis. I started taking cannabis, I knew that that was gonna help me. There's no way that we're allowed to grow something this beautiful, beautiful plant allowed to grow all over California beautifully, you know, and not have some beneficial factors. And the minute I started showing everybody that you can actually live a beautiful life toll free, actually live it consciously free and not being on pills. I mean, I started breaking a lot of people's stigma, I started breaking a lot of people's barriers, I started to help others that really needed help. I told them, Look, this isn't the answer. But it's an absolute guide to help you get to where you need to be in order for all that pain to just subside. So my pain goes from really painful hurt to when I'm on cannabis. It's kind of like an itch that I can't scratch. It's just bothersome. But it doesn't really affect anything that I have to do. And and that's what I've been doing slowly is trying to to help others try to help myself continuously to see how far we can go. I mean, I'm still free. Nine years later, I'm still moving. I feel like the strongest I've ever been in my life. I've changed my diet. I got married. I have a beautiful home. I mean, I don't know what else life could really ask for, you know? Well, I The Psychedelic Space 29:17 think the beautiful thing is Jose is that you're just getting started. When I see your videos and seeing you work out and you know, for anyone that's just been tuning in, let's take one deep collective breath just together, inhaling because it's a lot you know, and it can be triggering for some people to hear if you've lost people in your family or if you've experienced trauma. Just remember as you hear other people's stories to breathe, and release the story on the exhale to ensure that you're not taking any of it on. I can assure you that you carrying any part of Jose's story is not going to help him. It's not going to help me and it's not really not going to help yourself. And Jose is something that is really incredible. And I'd love to hear how this even came to be. As you became a surfing athlete, what was that process? What led you to go towards? Getting towards Team USA? And surfing? How did that even come to be as an option? Did you surf before the military? Or was this all post military? Jose Martinez 30:27 So this is all post military. There's an incredible human being by the name of Betty, that is a therapist in the Naval Medical Center. And she is absolutely stubborn. And when I mean stubborn, I mean, the most stubborn human being you'll ever meet. I remember her coming up to me while I was in therapy and saying she does a lot of the aquatics, aerobics, yoga, surfing, she does all that for therapy for the veterans. And I remember her coming into the PT room and saying, Hey, you know, what I think will benefit us swimming. And at the time, I had a colostomy bag. And that was my perfect excuse for me not to do anything extra. You know, I was tired at the time. And I didn't think anything was going to really help me. Especially because of the mindset that I had. So I would just tell her like, Yeah, when they do the reversal, if they ever do it, I'll meet you at the at the pool, I promise. No. And I remember, I think, three or four months before I actually got out of the military, I was ready to just blow my head off. I remember going up to the doctor and telling them all right, sir. If you don't try to remove this cost me bag, and the next day or so you're not going to see me ever again for the rest of my life. Like it's we're done. I'm done with life. I don't understand how 23 years old and I have a colostomy bag, and I lost all these limbs. I just I can't do this. Please tell me that you can at least help me reverses and give me some type of hope. And he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, Jose, calm down. He goes, can be telling me these things. I was like, dude, I'm just being real with you. I was like, I I'm just done. I'm fed up with this. I don't understand how, why what I nothing, I don't understand anything. So that they started doing all the tests, and they did the reversal. Well, the reversal went wrong. Wrong to the point where they actually didn't allow me to eat for three months. And my wife, which was my girlfriend at the time, was injecting me with nutrients and water because I can take anything to my mouth. I remember. I remember laying in bed and not being able to eat anything and her crying because anytime she would bring food to the room to eat. She saw me look over and smell and just wonder how she knew how much I wanted just a bite. I wanted to just live I wanted just to just to just to try all over again, you know. And eventually, all of this worked out. Well. I ended up getting it fixed. The reversal worked fine. And the very next day when I went into PT Betty was there waiting for me. And she said, So are you ready to go into the water? And I said Damn. I was like, I can't get away from this lady. So yes, I told her I'm like, Alright, well, I guess I'll meet you tomorrow at 7am. And it was a 50 meter pool. I remember jumping in the water and I'm like, I got this. There's no way this is gonna take a long time and jumped in the water. It took me two hours to go down 50 meters. And that absolutely lit a fire under me. I'm like, there's no way I can crawl faster than this. Like there is no way. It took me that long to start swimming. So I started going every day more and more, more and more to the point where she's like, Alright, Jose, like it looks like you need to even more so she gave me a swimming coach. And the swimming coach from there was telling her how much I was improving. A month later, she came and told me she goes Have you ever served like Betty? Are you kidding me? I was like, Can you imagine me being out there in the wetsuit looking like a like a seal that's hurt. You know, only halfway there are sharks gonna come take me down and she goes, don't worry about it. There's a lot more people out there. They're not going to look for the little guy. I'm like, hey. So I told her I was like, You know what? I trust you at this point. She goes, we've been using this therapy since 2006. So the military actually Okay, Betty. She was one of the first persons to start pushing this as an actual therapeutical way for veterans to recover. Ever back when everybody was coming back all hurt. So in 2006, she got the official word from VA and from the military to allow this to be an actual therapeutical thing for vets. So she started telling me of how everything was helpful. And until there was like, You know what, I trust you at this point. So she ended up taking me out, I've never served ever in my life before I actually went out with Betty. And I remember, she took me on a big giant foam board, and introduced me to this amazing gentleman named Darren classen. And he's always out apparently, he's been helping out just as long as Betty has been out. And he was the one that took me out, pushed me on to one of my first waves. And we continue to use that as therapy. After I got out of the military, I started growing cannabis for therapy reasons, I just wanted to my dreams were always to have my own cannabis room, my own grow my own way of taking care of myself. So when I got out of the military, I started growing a big amount of cannabis. Unfortunately, I got robbed. And I did not want to go to my old ways. I didn't want to become an investigator and find out who it was, and then do some mean things or whatnot. So I remember sitting on the pavement on my house and just saying, like, you know, God, is this another slap in the face, or you just tested me again. And I remember just hysterically laughing like the Joker from Batman just hysterically laughing. And I told myself, right time to wipe my hands and start to start something new. I know I'm going to be amazing. And I know there's something more I'm just scared to start it. So I called the one person that I knew was going to help me. Allow me to kind of forget about what had just happened. So I called the Betty and I told her Hey, like, are you guys still surfing? Are we still doing this thing? She goes, Yeah, come over. We do it every Thursday at Del Mar in San Diego. And I ended up showing up the very next week that I showed up again, she started talking to me about Hey, do you know that there's competition going on? You know, there's other adaptive surfers that are trying to do the same thing you're doing and trying to push the boundary? And that's all there is like there's no way like there's no way there's other guys like me like I've never seen anybody like me really like trying to compete No. And jenica telling me she goes look sign up for this contest. And it was I didn't know what contest that was. And it was it is one of the biggest adaptive contests we have here in Oceanside, California. It is about 100 adaptive surfers in different categories, anywhere from blind to quadriplegic, all kinds of different capabilities. I like to say capabilities because no one's really handicapped to be honest with you. Yes, the state, it's a state of mind. The Psychedelic Space 38:11 Will you say a little bit more about that. Because I think that is really important that the construct of someone being disabled, versus they are able to do the things that they do the way that they do it. Because I find that that is I would love to hear you, before you even carry on in this story, say a little bit more around that from your perspective. Because I think that it's a really powerful reframe it for for really, everyone. Jose Martinez 38:36 Absolutely. So this is what I like, I like to mess around with anybody that's handi capable, that has the capability just like myself, I show them the handicap placard, and I tell them look, this is just used for parking, okay, so we can get into the front of the row that's always used for it. Besides that, it's a state of mind. Don't ever think that because someone told you Oh, you can't do this, or you can't do that. But it's impossible. No, it's absolutely possible. Just like the military, you have to adapt and overcome. But just people are scared to either help you, either. This is the way I take it, you either gonna help me get to my destination, or you need to just get out of my way. So I can show you how to get to my way so I can show you how to get to my destination. And that's the mentality that I tried to show all my friends in all various different situations. I mean, there's brands that I have that have full body, and I feel like they're handicapped just because of the mindset that they have. They're always on the negative Nancy type of attitude, you know, you got to think of it in a positive way every single day you wake up, you have a breath, that you're able to get a drink of water that you're able to do absolutely something for yourself. You're absolutely should be grateful every single day because you have an ability to change something that you don't like in your life and that day that you woke up. So if you're not taking advantage of your situation, then it's a state of mind. And that's what I like to tell all my friends of everybody that I know that has a capability that they have to overcome or whatnot, their chargers. I mean, I have one of my really, really good friends Her name is Quinn, I'm always reposting her because she is absolutely amazing. She doesn't let anybody stop her. She doesn't let anything stop her. She's been at the gym, this whole time that quarantine has been going on, she's been trying to get stronger. And that's kind of the things that we want to keep doing is just showing people that have gone through trauma that have have or feel like they they can't do it. We're just trying to show them and remind them like, Look, it's this easy. Sometimes it just takes an adaptive moment that we have to make, sometimes we got to do it on the floor. Sometimes we got to do it in a different manner, because it doesn't work that way for us. And that's absolutely fine. You just got to either do it yourself, because you know, you can do it, or find the person that's going to help you advance to that, to that place. Just this last year, I found an amazing trainer that has been helping, that's the guy that you've if you guys go on my social media, I've been posting a lot of workouts and a lot of things like that. And it's just us trying to be in the gym, adapting to what's there and what we can do if we're working out a certain body group. I don't want to miss out because oh, we think we can't do it. So we've been trying to push boundaries even to get up on leg presses and stuff like that. You guys can go on my social media and see that I've been trying to do squats. You know, if they're gonna fall, it feels like it's gonna hurt. But there's someone always are trying to help me out. And that's the best thing that we could find. And please, please, please, don't be afraid to ask for help. Don't let the ego get in the way. Please, please, Jose, not The Psychedelic Space 41:55 only are you lifting weights and stuff on your Instagram, you're shooting archery, you're fishing. You're like, I think I saw like zip lining searching. I mean, this is one of those the zip line they threw Jose Martinez 42:08 me on there. Okay, they made me because me not thinking they're like, Alright, Jose, go up there first, because you know, you need a little extra help. And when I got there, they said, Well, since you're here first might as well throw you first and I look back, my wife was right behind me. I can't was out. I was I was made. So yeah, there's certain things. Because of the people you have around, they're gonna make you do things that get you uncomfortable. So get uncomfortable, it's okay. Unknown Speaker 42:38 That is stunning. The You know, The Psychedelic Space 42:43 I think that this is forever going to be one of those interviews that I go back to the when my friends are like, I don't want to get up that early. I'm gonna be like this. I'm not gonna finish that word, but you can fill in the blank, because it is one of those things that on some level, this idea of what we can't do is complete and utter shit. Just in case people have their kids or something listening. Because, ultimately, Jose, like, again, I encourage anyone that's listening right now, to go to Jose's Instagram, it's roll with guru. And on those days that you're questioning something that you're doing, get yourself a little bit of perspective. And so what I really want to do, I've got some people that do want to come up, either offer contributions or questions as a whole group. Again, let's take a nice, deep breath, Inhale in, Unknown Speaker 43:39 exhale out. The Psychedelic Space 43:41 And remember, you know, to mind your mind and these conversations and if you notice something is bringing a little bit of a charge that as you go through these clubhouse rooms, to also be sovereign in your experience. And if things feel a little too much for anyone system at any time, please take self responsibility to get what you need to get out in the sun, go walk, stand up, stretch, whatever it is, as we kind of shift things up a little bit. I've got two people that would like to come up not looks like we're at one if anyone would like to come up, because this is being recorded. I want to get your consent. So if you would like to come on stage, that's beautiful. Just please text, the word consent to 22999. That'll give you a couple of questionnaires to fill out and then it'll ping me you completed the form. And I'm here talking to Jose Martinez. So we've been hearing from Jose who is a wounded Well, not anymore, was wounded in combat triple amputee, who now is a Paris surfer are currently third in the world and I'm sure is ready to get back out and into the competitions but in the meantime is lifting and doing weights and surfing and all of these incredible have incredible assets, we were just talking about discomfort and things that make you uncomfortable or things that, you know, make you a little bit afraid. For you, Jose, what's exciting you about life? I mean, right as you are getting into all this fun surfing, then the world kind of shut down, which I'm sure then shut down competitions. What's exciting for you actually, there's a two part question, Jose. One, what's exciting you right now in your life? And the other question is, how can we support you? Whether that's, you know, if you've got merged, or if you're looking to coach people, or you have some way that anyone listening here can support you? What would that be? So those two questions I'd love to hear. Jose Martinez 45:43 So the things that are getting me excited right now, honestly, I'm just, I'm living freely on a day to day basis. And it feels absolutely amazing to be able to share this with the world I can ever ask for is for people to, if they're really having a tough time, if they need someone to talk to just, I hope they understand and know that I continue to push as much as I do on my social media so they can reach out I've had very many, so many people throughout the world to be honest with you that I continue to talk to on my DMS on a daily basis on a weekly basis on a monthly basis that I just check in and make sure that they're doing okay, I want them to understand that they're not alone in this world, I'm constantly fighting a depressional battle with myself and with the world. Depression just doesn't go away. Because today I feel better and it's gone. It's something that we're continuously trying to adjust the way we talk to each other, the way we the way we react to some of the things that we do. So I just want them to know, and understand that there is a lot of people that wants to help that are here to help and they're very helpful. The reason why I have my social media is because I help a lot of people and I don't want to let those people down. I'm constantly talking to different various peoples from all over the world. Because of that, I'm no doctor and nothing like that. But I know how it feels to be alone. I know how it feels like to go through trauma and feel like no one can understand the pain that you're going through. And to be honest with you, the way anybody can help me as you continue to repose show this to other friends that need some help and need a lift. I have a link on my bio that has my merch and all I ever pushed it out for was to help me specially after last year, because of COVID we were on a championship run and because of COVID that completely stopped everything. And we I had to find a different way to be able to get wetsuits to make sure that all my stuff is taken care of in the water all last year, I was freezing my butt off. So I created a little bit of mark that way when you guys put it on, you feel a bit inspired and motivated to actually go live your best unfulfilled life. But if you cannot help with any of that I also have a nonprofit organization that I started called for season fighters. And it's based out of Washington State. If you know anybody with land that wants to take people out on boats to take a fishing to allow us to go camping, hunting whatever the case may be. I started the me and three of my other friends started this nonprofit to help out veterans that have been wounded in combat or have been hurt in some type of way while selflessly serving our country. First Responder, policemen, firemen, all kinds of people that are selflessly helping in our community. And we made it a point to be able to help all of those people if you guys don't know, firemen are second in line with the highest suicide rate because of their job. They answer every single call that they have to go to. And a lot of the times they don't have the ability to help or they go to a scene where there's death and I'm coming from a place where I know a lot of my veterans became fired and then I got to make sure we continued helping cycle so I just wanted to continue to push out as much help as possible. I feel like I've taken enough from this world and done my my harm that now all I need to do is continue to help others that really need the help and continue to inspire and motivate and show you how easy it is to live a beautiful life. The Psychedelic Space 49:54 Stunning Do you have a website for the nonprofit or maybe if I miss Jose Martinez 50:01 Yes, so the website for the nonprofit is for season fighters.org. It's a 501 C, three seats. So everything that we get goes directly straight to whoever we're taking out, we try to give them gear. So if they want to hunt, fish surf, do whatever it is outdoorsy that they'll need. We want to make sure that we set them, we don't just take them out one time. And that's it. We want to make sure that they have the ability to either help others help themselves or continue to show the rest of the world how it's done. Unknown Speaker 50:34 Yeah, The Psychedelic Space 50:34 I am, I Oh, can definitely rally some folks around that as well. Thank you, Jose, for continuing to serve the way that you do. It's stunning. And I think it's a beautiful, beautiful example of what's possible. And like I said, I think that you're just getting started. I've got Dr. Lola here, who is a healthcare professional, alternative medicine, cannabis educator. Welcome to this stage, Dr. O. Would love to hear any thoughts, contributions, let us know a little bit a little bit about who you are. And then any questions for Jose or comments. Unknown Speaker 51:14 Hi, hi, Kole thank you so much for this platform, or your platform is just amazing. And I'm very, very grateful for what you do. On this platform, I really am. Or say, I just want to say thank you, not just what you have given to our country. But what you're doing for for the handicapped community. This is this is huge. This is huge. A lot about me on on my bio, just a little bit, I'm gonna chop in right quick to say, I am so grateful. For your courage, this was the courage I did not have growing up as a child. I was I had polio when I was probably about two years old. And I had to work within limb. I remember I never even used to want to go out. I never used to want to wear wear dresses. Because often now I actually have a wish on dresses, you know, cuz I want to show my leg. But for you to be out there doing what you do. This is amazing. And I just want to tell you guys in the in the in the on the audience, that what he said is really true. Why are we focusing on ourselves last could be worse. And I'm very, very grateful to you. We all can contribute to the society, we don't have an excuse. And I'm very grateful for what you're doing. And I already followed you. And I'm gonna see whatever I can do to support whatever course you're doing, if you ever need me for anything. I'm here. I'm a plant medicine specialist. And I also know a lot about 30 disease states. That's my field. So what I'm doing is bringing those mediums together to educate people. Thank you. Thank you. Cool. Appreciate you, my sister. The Psychedelic Space 53:30 Always good to see you. Always, always. Rachel, thank you so much for joining us here. We do still have about 10 minutes. So we could probably take one more person if anyone wants to join the stage. You just text the word consent to 22999. And that'll ping me that you consent for the recording. This is going on The Psychedelic Space podcast. So if you want to catch the recording, it takes about a week for it to come up. And Rachel Good to see you. Welcome to the stage thoughts contributions little bit about you and anything for Jose. Thanks, Kole. Unknown Speaker 54:11 You know, I was going to shoot Jose a DM and let him know what this meant to me and that I just really felt called to voice it. Unknown Speaker 54:19 Actually, Unknown Speaker 54:20 I'm teaching a class right now and I gave my class an extra video to watch because I just felt like I just needed to verbalize this but I just want to say thank you for challenging me and for sharing your story. And just for your willingness to do exactly what you said and drop the ego. I actually had a permanent colostomy bag put in at 23 as well. And when you are sharing just I just related to that in a way that few people you know I understand and it's been almost 10 years, it'll be 10 years next February for me. And I do some mentoring. And I've been feeling a lot more challenged lately to share more about my story, but I had no idea about that part of your story. But just hearing everything that you shared today, I just want to say thank you for putting yourself out there. When I first saw you in a room, I was just floored by your story floored by your, your attitude. And I just want to also validate those hard days. And thanks for acknowledging, you know, that side of it, you're so positive, and you, you know, wear your heart on your sleeve. But I think it's also really important to, you know, remind folks that they're still hard days. And similarly, when I was 16, I had two strokes. And I'm 32 now, and have had a lot of things contribute to my healing, therapy, psychedelics, meditation, yoga. But the big acceptance piece for me it was really through psychedelics, and probably yoga. But I just really value your voice. And I just want to say thank you. And on those hard days, don't be afraid to reach out to anyone. Also, because, you know, that is part of this journey. But yeah, I just want to say thank you, and thank you, Kole, for having him. And, yeah, your blessing. Jose Martinez 56:41 Thank you so much ratio for sharing your story. Um, to be honest with you, I, I like to share my story about the colossal bag, because it, I really felt like that was the tip of the iceberg for me. I mean, there's no way that I was in all this pain. And yet, I still couldn't do stuff, right. And I still couldn't even do this, right. And I wish I would have known more people that, at the time, had it or I didn't even know about it, though. We're waking up to be honest with you. And I woke up to, I didn't know that. That's what that was. And I just wish I would have known more people. So please don't ever be afraid to, to continue your journey and share your story with others. And just like you said it. The way I've been helping myself is through psychedelics through cannabis. And that's the only way I've been really, really able to help myself because I feel like I can finally accept myself and love myself. You know, I every day more and more stronger, because of all the practice that I have, with positivity. To the point where I, I stopped using the word hate. If the word hate ever comes out of my mouth, I absolutely have to apologize to the world and say I'm sorry, I didn't really mean that. I dislike this. So please keep sharing your story with us keep keep going on this amazing journey because we need amazing humans like yourself. Thank you so much for sharing. Unknown Speaker 58:10 That's beautiful. Unknown Speaker 58:10 And I'll just add real quick what you mentioned about cannabis. I also suffering from chronic pain and was handed you know, all these opioids, and for years that was just what Duke hospital was giving me, you know, for these things, and I appreciate your perspective on you know, what cannabis can do for you know, pain control. And I think that's a really important message that needs to get out there as well. And you know, what you said about complaining, I heard a quote, like pretty recently that you know, don't even let yourself hear yourself complain. You know, it is a you know, it's dishonouring. But yeah, it's how you hit the nail on the head. That's perfectly said. So, thanks. The Psychedelic Space 58:57 Thank you so much, Rachel. Doctor. Oh, did you have something, Lola? No, Unknown Speaker 59:02 I was just clapping just acknowledging what Rachel and Lucille were saying. I mean, if sometimes we make excuses about them. I mean, we sometimes I just don't even want to say it's like complaining about working from home. Just don't even make sense. You know? The Psychedelic Space 59:25 And acknowledging that you know, sometimes we have rough days to end finding compassion and grace for ourselves in those moments I found that I was redirecting self hate into myself work where I'm not even self working right or I'm not doing positive right or, oh, I messed up again are not supposed to say that and, you know, giving ourselves like grace and kindness through this process. It took us how many years to get to where we are, mentally takes a lot to unravel. I have an ask from everyone listening Right now, if you're by your phone, if you can click Jose's picture, go to his Instagram. Take a screenshot of his Instagram and share it to your stories, letting people know more about Jose so we can spread not only his message, but also the work for his nonprofit, the people that he's serving, if we're going to have the conversations around plant medicine, psychedelics, spiritual work. It's not about doing it later. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll support people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, accessibility. Right now, Jose Martinez 1:00:37 take The Psychedelic Space 1:00:38 five seconds to come over to your phone. When click on Jose's picture, or if you're listening on the podcast, it's roll with Guru is the handle, screenshot, Jose, or maybe there's a post that's particularly potent for you, and share it roll with guru and let people know about how we can contribute. One of my commitments on this platform is to continue to increase accessibility. What that means is, even as we're speaking right now, this is being transcribed in real time, so that on the psychedelic podcast.com, the website, it's not ready yet still working on it. But all the transcripts will be available in by next week. All of these will be viewable on zoom with live transcription. So that people that may have that don't have the ability to hit these small buttons, for whatever reason, are able to still have access to these conversations. Because we if we look at what people are up against the accessibility component, I don't wait for an app to come out with it. I don't wait for the government to come out with it. If we're going to be about it here in the psychedelic clubhouse, then it starts now. Not when things are legalized, and I'm not giving, I'm not condoning any illegal activity or the usage of illicit substances that are illegal where you are. What I'm saying is that we cannot wait to go from the top down for resources for support and for accessibility. So take this moment to really get involved. Jose's doing incredible work, there's the veteran walk in talk that Colin wells is doing, there's amazing opportunities to be giving back to people that have given so much already. And so I really need you to take this time right now, in this moment, not when you're off of work, not when you take a break, it'll take you five seconds just to take some small action. Even if you can't financially support in some way today, if you share it, someone else may be able to. For me, it's an exchange of energy. And Jose's shown up tremendously today, that even in just sharing his story where if you've got a podcast, please hit Jose up on Instagram, up lift his voice so that other people that are going through a challenging time, can find that Lighthouse for themselves, help by merchant financially support because Jose can't be the same lighthouse if he can't keep his lights on. This is where community can really come together to make a huge impact in this moment. So Jose, thank you so much for your time and for your love. I do have a few people that want to speak. So I'm going to have you say a final word for the podcast. That way I can just bring people up without having the consent to record. So what are some final thoughts just for the podcast recording that you would like to leave and then we'll snag a couple more of these questions after if you've got some time. Jose Martinez 1:03:46 I just wanted to say thank you all for listening on final words for the podcast. I hope you all are having an amazing day. I hope you all understand that we need each other, especially in times like this even more so now than ever. And I hope you understand that you're absolutely beautiful. And you are important to this world. So don't let anybody else tell you otherwise. I promise you, I personally need you. The person next to you needs you and the persons around you need you either to become the lighthouse to be the showmanship to the lighthouse, or the guidance to the lighthouse. But you are all important and you're absolutely loved.   

Mar 3

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