2Tokens Podcast

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Clarifying the path to Tokenization Through Connecting, Identifying what is needed & Education

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Dan is interviewed by Mark van Rijmenam of the 2Tokens project on tokenization and the different legal and regulatory frameworks around the globe. With the public 2Tokens project we aim to clarify the path towards tokenization through connecting, identifying what's needed and education.

May 2020

28 min

Constantin is the Co-chairman of the International Token Standardization Association in Berlin. He is explaining the importance of standards in the nacent tokenization industry and how the ITSA framework works.

May 2020

16 min 37 sec

Simon Lelieveldt is an industrial Engineer, active in the banking and innovative payments sector. He provides regulatory and business advice to startups, banks, payment institutions, trade bodies and e-money institutions.One of his passions is the history of the Dutch financial sector. He will be sharing his insights on the past and future of payments in the first inspiration session.

May 2020

31 min 41 sec

Olivier Rikken leads the research team at 2Tokens and explains the mission of roadmap. Tokenisation in itself was a bit of a hype word. We're gonna tokenise everything and it is completely new, and we do have to realise, and that is also something I mentioned to Alex when we started out right at the beginning of the project. We do want to emphasise on the fact that tokenisation in itself is not new.

Jun 2020

16 min 20 sec

What better way to show how to disrupt existing tokenization frameworks, and how this can be done, than to create your own token? In this webinar we explain how to launch a token: a discounted store credit for all 2Tokens products in the webshop. Creating this token will provide better insights in the challenges that come with the creation of a token.

Jul 2020

32 min 26 sec

InterWork Alliance Launches to Standardize Token-Powered Ecosystems Worldwide. Companies want to be able to create token-based business models without having a platform technology in mind. For this approach to work, standards are urgently needed around defining what a token is and how its contractual behaviors will work,” said InterWork Alliance President Ron Resnick. “The Alliance was created to serve as the organization where this essential work happens. By bringing great technology and innovative business leaders together to deliver the market-driven specifications needed to facilitate interworking, the Alliance can deliver a proven, standard approach that is required to bring consumer trust into this space

Jul 2020

20 min 53 sec

Tokens enable users to define, exchange and use anything of value – whether that value is digitally-native, such as cryptocurrencies, or other forms of value, such as artwork, properties, loyalty points, etc. For an enterprise to exchange or use tokenized value, business partners first need to universally agree on how that token is defined and how its value will contractually unlock through the various agreements and clauses.“When our customers want to come together to solve problems in their sectors, they often want a neutral forum where they can work out collaborative frameworks and approaches that let them focus on business outcomes rather than technology implementation details. The IWA will play a critical role in helping business leaders across industries collaborate effectively,” said Marley Gray, principal architect, Microsoft, and the InterWork Alliance Chairman. “It provides a forum where industry participants can take real-world use cases as diverse as improving carbon market efficiency or trade finance efficiency, and use technology-agnostic token and contract definitions to foster interoperability and drive widespread adoption – that’s the big picture of what we need to do in the Alliance.”The InterWork Alliance will provide the frameworks needed for businesses to create standardized token definitions and contracts in non-technical, business terms, and then turn them over to developers for coding on any platform of choice

Jul 2020

19 min 50 sec

Aljosja Beije is co-founder of BlockLab of the Port of Rotterdam, and in the lead for the 2Tokens use case EBL. We see the digitization of the Bill of Lading as an important step towards making ports around the world, safer, faster, more efficient and sustainable. We are therefore actively reaching out to carriers, shippers, banks and logistics service providers in the Netherlands and beyond, to work with them on setting an open standard for transfer of title. The e-BL project envisions the creation of a secure environment in which the first legally binding, interoperable, paperless transfer of ownership of an EBL can be conducted on live shipments. TradeTrust allows for the creation of assets wrapped in a token, which can therefore be owned by an entity. On the 8th of September (4pm - 6pm CEST/UTC+2), 2Tokens, together with Blocklab and the InterWork Alliance, will host a webinar on the use-case Electronic Bill-of-Lading (EBL).

Jul 2020

24 min 27 sec

The potential for tokenization to disrupt existing interactions is huge – offering both more efficient solutions to existing paradigms (e.g. crowdfunding, fractionalized ownership) as well as opening up whole new models for financing and collaboration beyond the currently dominant approaches. The use-case Next Generation Capital is about creating a new way of funding (vertical funds), focusing on hightech ventures that are building solutions for a sustainable future. Marleen Evertz is founder and CEO NxChange and leads the 2Tokens use case NGC.

Aug 2020

11 min 4 sec

Next Generation Capital is the result of a flourishing partnership between various innovative and progressive parties that jointly offer the solution for the social challenges that our generation is trying to tackle, in a smart, sustainable and tokenized way. Experts in sustainability, emerging technology, and capital markets discus the future of venture funding models. Guests John Bell (CEO HighTechXL) and Jan Geert van Hall (Investment director YES!Delft) will give insight into the challenges and opportunities of future hightech development. At the same time, the vertical funding model how it can disrupt our existing hightech investment model by allowing investors to invest in multiple startups simultaneously is introduced by Marleen Evertsz (CEO Nxchange) and Alex Bausch (Next Generation Capital).

Aug 2020

1 hr 28 min

How to be innovative in the capital markets and benefit from our Regulatory framework. Insight in applying economics in a way that has never been done before.The regulation & token economics webinar is about how to be innovative in the capital markets and the benefits from our European regulatory framework. Important topics are: security tokens, securities regulation, trading security tokens, smart contracts and the added value of blockchain technology. You will gain the insides in applying economics in the way that has never been done before.

Aug 2020

1 hr 10 min

Breaking the status quo of a legal framework to benefit all stakeholdersIn this 2Tokens masterclass held August 20th, Alex Bausch (2Tokens), Quintus Willemse (The Share Council), Jack Berk (Berk Lawyers), Dan Liebau (Founder Lightbulb Capital & FinTech lecturer at RSM) and Marleen Evertsz (Nx'change) discussed the ingenious unconventional "Legal Framework" of the Verticals®. Together with Phd masters in the field we engineered a framework to give the startups a stable structure, assure investor protection and program manager influence at the same time. See what benefit you can have from this new way of venture building and capitalise on the combined knowledge. The second part of the masterclass, Dr. Dion Bongaerts of the Erasmus University RSM discusses the success factors of Security Token Offerings with Dan Liebau (Singapore)..

Oct 2020

1 hr 32 min

2Tokens hosted the first annual online summit October 8th. The interactive 2Tokens roadmap was presented where companies and institutions can go if they have questions about tokenisation and crypto. In this episode, our host Patrick De Laive of The NEXT WEB interviews Chairman Alex Bausch and Jelle Pol who together with Stefan Schmitt of the International Token Standardization Association (ITSA) discuss the relevance of standards. In particular on the use of tokens in Europe and how this relates to the proposed MiCA regulation. In the past 1.5 years, the 2Tokens foundation has worked hard to realize various tokenization projects in the Netherlands. This was done in collaboration with various parties, including banks, ministries, companies and institutions. By means of round table sessions, working groups and webinars, 2Tokens has put the technology around tokenization into practice and shared it with the world. The success of the use cases and the round table sessions provides insight into the potential and possibilities for this technology in the Netherlands and Europe.

Oct 2020

42 min 40 sec

2Tokens highlights the path to Tokenization in the Netherlands. The mission of 2Tokens is to provide an interactive roadmap with the aim of creating clarity about token financing. In todays session Olivier Rikken and Mark van Rijmenam share the findings and recommendations with regards to token finance in the Netherlands. What are the lessons learned during the Use cases?  What is good practice?.  All of this has been wrapped in the online tokenroadmap.nl which will be updated by the research team as new developments emerge.

Oct 2020

28 min 19 sec

During the 2Tokens Summit on the 8th of October, we hosted two banks (Rabobank and ABN AMRO) as guests. They elaborated in our panel on the impact of COVID-19 on the economy and how tokenization can improve the current situation. Hosted by Marleen Evertsz (Nx'change), Djuri Baars (Rabobank) explains more about the bank account provided to 2Tokens and the initiaves that Rabobank is rolling out in the tokenization space. After, Martijn Siebrand (ABN AMRO), will explain about the Banking as a service project they are co-developing as well as other initiatives they are working on.

Oct 2020

25 min 35 sec

In this podcast, taken from the Summit hosted on the 8th of October, we will elaborate on our use-cases eBL (electronic Bill of Lading) and NGC (Next Generation Capital). Team captain of eBL, Aljosja Beije, will explain everything about how the tokenization of a Bill of Lading is beneficial for the supply chain industry and what the next steps are for this use-cases, which includes a collaboration with the InterWork Alliance (IWA) in the US Marleen Evertsz, team captain of NGC, will discuss how the NGC use-case will revolutionize the investment sector through Venture Verticals®. The first Venture Verticals® is to be launched in collaboration with HighTechXL. Listen to this podcast to learn more!

Nov 2020

28 min 22 sec

In this final episode, taken from the 2Tokens Summit, Alex Bausch will explain more about the future of 2Tokens. He will talk about the 2Tokens Foundation, the goals and mission, and will elaborate on what we plan to do in the coming year.

Nov 2020

12 min 42 sec

On the 8th of October, during the 2Tokens Summit, the Token Roadmap was presented by Olivier Rikken (Head of Research of 2Tokens). The Token Roadmap is one of the deliverables of the 2Tokens Foundations. It provides insights in the regulatory processes of tokenization in the Netherlands. The Token Roadmap is a guideline, which will continuously be updated.Before you are able to go through the Token Roadmap, you will have to classify your token first. This deep-dive will explain all the ins and outs of how to classify your token and how to use the Token Roadmap.

Nov 2020

1 hr

Learn more about the state of tokenization in Europe's Financial Markets with this deep dive hosted during the 2Tokens Summit.In this deep-dive, we will take a closer look at the state of tokenization in Europe's financial markets. Besides discussing the newly proposed MiCAr (Market in Crypto-Assets regulation) by the European Commission, use-cases such as Next Generation Capital (NGC) and Central Banking Digital Currency (CBDC) will be highlighted.

Nov 2020

1 hr 33 min

Holland FinTech and 2Tokens, in partnership with the Dutch Association of Banks (NVB), invite you to join for an online interactive event on January 20 from 16:30 – 18:00 PM CET.In this event, we bring together a wide range of experts to discuss state of market and explore use cases and legal challenges for banks to work with tokenization. This is an event that focuses on banking strategies and applications, but will be accessible and appealing for a broader audience.Tokens are familiar to the financial industry, but since the rise of cryptocurrencies and related technological possibilities, we see an increased interest in the field. Tokens can be used to represent all kinds of contracts and value, and have the potential for more transparency, trust, liquidity and speed of financial services. Today several industry initiatives join forces, to discuss the potential and way forward of tokenization in financial services.Join this event if you want to: Gain understanding of tokenization Learn about the legal framework for the use of tokens in financial services Hear how banks are looking to employ tokenization Be the first one to hear about 2021 roadmap and use cases!Program- Opening: Alex Bausch │ 2Tokens , Don Ginsel │ Holland FinTech- Introduction into Tokenization - State of Market: Robert van Altena │ PWC- Legal Aspects of Tokenization - Latest Developments: Clair Wermers │ CMS- 2Tokens Roadmap: Marleen Evertsz │ Nxchange, Alex Bausch │ 2Tokens- Banking View on Tokenization - NVB White Paper: Marjan van der Plas │ ABN AMRO- Use Cases for 2021: Marleen Evertsz │ Nxchange- Panel Discussion with the Following Speakers: Kim Schneider │ Rabobank, Marjan van der Plas │ ABN AMRO , Leonard Franken │ AFM.- Closing words

Jan 26

1 hr 32 min

In our latest webinar about The Value of Tokenization for Financial Services, Clair Wermers, lawyer at CMS, discussed the legal aspects of tokenization. Although this might not be the most exciting topic to think about, it is important to know what you are dealing with, because it can have a major impact on the feasibility, cost, and timing of a token initiative.

Feb 8

16 min 7 sec

In our latest webinar about The Value of Tokenization for Financial Services, Robert Altena, advisor, accountant, and partner at PWC, explains more about the current state of market of tokenization.

Feb 8

13 min 42 sec

In our latest webinar about The Value of Tokenization for Financial Services we hosted a panel discussion with Kim Schneider (Rabobank & NVB), Marjan van der Plas (ABN AMRO & NVB), and Leonard Franken (AFM). Listen to what they have to say about tokenization in financial services!

Feb 8

22 min 35 sec

In our latest webinar about The Value of Tokenization for Financial Services, Marjan van der Plas, Compliance Manager Innovation & Technology at ABN AMRO, explained all about the banking view on tokenization. Furthermore, the positioning paper published by the NVB (Dutch Banking Association) will be discussed.

Feb 8

15 min 53 sec

On the 12th of April, we hosted the first podcast in our ‘Introduction to our use-cases’ series. Together with Arnout Buschenhenke (ABN AMRO) and Digital Asset, this podcast explains all about our use-case Invoice Market.You will learn more about what an invoice market is and how we aim work on tokenizing this market.

Apr 22

37 min 34 sec

The persistent progress of technology brings many opportunities to improve traditional industries as current approaches need to be rethought. This can also be applied to the energy sector. New innovations, such as blockchain and the internet of things, make energy systems smarter and enable consumers to better benefit from energy services. This increasing digitization has the potential to transform how people engage with these utilities, by bringing control and transparency back to the end-user.Together with several parties, the working group of this use-case aims to create an Energy Token. Curious? Listen now!

Jul 5

56 min 30 sec

Creating one digital journey for entrepreneurs with minimum interference of a notary, that is the goal of this use-case. A pivotal piece of this exercise is to be able to create the first fully digitized shareholders register that allows trading shares without any notary interference at all (in a fully legal and compliant way).As the European Parliament just passed new legislation stating that from August 1st, 2021 every European country has to offer full digital incorporation of limited companies, the Netherlands feels the pressure. In the Netherlands, we currently have rigid notary structure used to incorporate limited liability businesses (Dutch: BVs) and to trade its shares. With this new legislation, the European Parliament has set a timetable on the digital incorporation of companies, digital shareholder registers and digital transfer of shares.The Digital Notary use-case has been established to find a way to change the standard on corporate structuring and the trading of private shares. In the future, those wishing to establish a new company will now be able to do so in a fully digital and affordable way. Various partners have come together acknowledging the same problems that exist today: the process of incorporation and transfer of shares of private limited companies is too cumbersome, expensive, and time-consuming (in the Netherlands). To be clear, this does not mean that this use-case aims to remove a notary, but rather envisions a different role. 

Jul 5

1 hr 10 min