The Space In-Between

Arne van Oosterom

This podcast is part of my journey to learn about what creative leadership is, how leadership is evolving and what kind of leadership our rapidly changing world needs. Join me on this journey while I meet inspirational people from around the world.

All Episodes

Fieke Sluijs is a talented designer, graphic facilitator, teacher... and so much more. In this podcast she shares her exceptional story; a journey with many ups and down and a wonderful ending. 

Jul 15

1 hr 39 min

I talk with Giovanni Ruello. He is a Service Designer at Bosch and has a wonderful story filled with Italian sceneries and a passion for drawing. We talk about his career and the, sometimes difficult, choices he had to make.

May 5

1 hr 35 min

I talk with Silvia Baroni, Senior Strategic Designer, Business Innovation Studio at Volkswagen Group Services. Silvia grew up as a professional tennis player until an injury forced her to suddenly stop. So this talk is about life changing events, courage and perseverance. 

Mar 22

1 hr 7 min

I talk with Emma Jefferies PHD. Emma is an author and expert on how to lead a movement of change with empathy. We talk about  courage, resilience, empathy and your inner child.

Feb 16

1 hr 27 min

Sarah is an Expert in Design Thinking, Innovation Program Development, and Training Corporate Entrepreneurs & Innovative Leaders Sarah calls herself a misfit, but she is actually always looking to build bridges. I talk to her about how she grew up, what shaped her and how she creates safe spaces for the creative teams she works with.

Jan 12

1 hr 13 min

Sarah Braud is an author, brand storyteller and content strategist. We talk about how storytelling combines all of her passions. We also talk about art, design, her spiritual journey, a beautiful story of ‘the river and the rock’, being a parent and what really matters most in life. Her upcoming books has the working title: ‘Judge yourself accordingly’

Dec 2020

1 hr 29 min

Jan-Erik is an author of the book Leading Design and professor of Design Management at the University of Applied Science and Arts in Lucern. We talk about his career at Philips Design, growing up as a Dutch-German hybrid and always trying to fit in while staying your authentic self.

Nov 2020

1 hr 48 min

Guido has been an influential person in the world of design thinking for over a decade. He is the author of the book 'Radical Changes in Small Steps' (still only available in Dutch) a bestseller and Management Book of the Year. He was “born to be a designer”, had a long career at Océ and is now lector and professor of design thinking. On the show we talk about design thinking, how the body knows more than we can articulate, the Occam’s Razor principle on beauty and simplicity and how adversity can spark creativity.

Nov 2020

1 hr 37 min

Gordon Adomdza is Innovation and Entrepreneurship Professor at Ashesi University College in Accra Ghana. We talk about how he grew up in Ghana, studied in Canada, discovered design thinking and became one of the leading design thinking evangelist in Africa.

Nov 2020

1 hr 33 min

Pak is a Fashion Psychologist who moved from Hong Kong to the UK when he was 8 years old. His parents stayed in Hong Kong. We talk about how this has influenced his development and the way he looks at things. We also talk about design thinking, leadership and… Teddybears.  

Oct 2020

1 hr 25 min

Today on the show I talk to Becky Wright, Creative Director at New Leaf and a modern-day alchemist. “If you and I would to go down to the river, we wouldn’t find gold where the water is running fast. We’d find it where it’s running quite slow.”

Sep 2020

1 hr 21 min

On this show I talk to Ralf Beuker. Ralf is the Dean of the Design Faculty at University of Applied Sciences Muenster, Germany and a professor of Design Management. We talk about when to make jokes.. and when not, the transitions from chaos to order and back, the evolution of Design Management into Design Thinking and… how I ‘pissed him off’ We talk about how being too satisfied with ourselves and being stuck in routines can make us blind to change that is happening around us.

Sep 2020

1 hr 56 min

On this show I talk to Service Designer Anupa Dasgupta. We talk about storytelling, growing up in India and Greece, adapting and what an Indian ‘Joined Family’ is… We discuss the need for Emotional Intelligence in Leadership, dyslexia, learning ‘disabilities’ and what it means when you’re wired differently.

Sep 2020

1 hr 5 min

On this show I speak to Mónica Muñoz Mora a business unit and global sales leader. We talk about leadership, emotional intelligence, work life balance, automation and the future of work. Mónica also shared her story of growing up and studying in Mexico and moving to Europe. She lived and worked in many European countries and currently lives in Luxembourg.

Aug 2020

1 hr 11 min

On this show I talk to Robert Puchalla the managing director consulting and brand expert at Arsmedium in Nürnberg. We talk about growing up in Poland in the Soviet Era, moving to Germany as a teenager and being overwhelmed by products and advertisement. Immediately Robert fell in love with brands and purpose driven companies. We talk about marketing and what makes a brand great, We also talk about his philosophy on economics, taking care of resources in stead of ‘Managing Resources’ and to never treat people as Human Resources. ‘Smuggling’ an illegal drink (Red Bull) into Germany… Staring and running a successful agency and going through a massive burn-out; How it starts, what it does to you and how to recover Obviously we also talk at length about leadership and how to create a safe space for people.

Aug 2020

1 hr 27 min

On this special Creative Leadership Podcast episode “Let me introduce you” John Vorhaus introduces me to the Author and Decision Strategist Annie Duke. What an amazing story she shared with us…. As a former professional poker player, Annie won more than $4 million in tournament poker before retiring from the game in 2012. Prior to becoming a professional player, Annie was awarded a National Science Foundation Fellowship to study Cognitive Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. Currently Annie Duke is an author, corporate speaker, and consultant in the decision-making space. Annie’s latest book, How to Decide: Simple Tools for Making Better Choices, is available on September 15, 2020 from Portfolio, a Penguin Random House imprint. Her previous book, Thinking in Bets, is a national bestseller.

Aug 2020

1 hr 28 min

Zahara is the founder at African Futures Academy and Conscious Design Coach & Futurist. We talk about growing up in a township in South Africa during Apartheid, being both disconnected and hyper sensitive. We talk about her philosophy of the Consciousness Evolution and Embracing the space created for you and embracing your authentic self as a leader. Thanks to Matt Holt Books for the support

Jul 2020

1 hr 20 min

On this show I’m talking to Joel Bradley. Joel is a Creative Director and Innovation Coach at SKY television. He calls himself an accidental creative. We talk about deep listening, making space for others, being playful, Creative Leadership and the The Leadership Cult and Mythology. We discuss Empathy. Can you really walk in someone else’s shoes? and we talk about having dyslexia and what it means to be wired differently.

Jul 2020

42 min 28 sec

In this episode I talk to Shinta Oosterwaal. Shinta is an Economist, Author and Leadership Coach We talk about Being broken, growing up now compared to the 70’s and early 80’s, the Waldorf School concept And we spend time talking about her vision on Leadership and specifically about New Economics, Regenerative Economy, Kate Raworth’s Donut Economy, Charles Eisenstein and the Gift Economy and her life changing moments… Her Book book 'Thrive / Fundamentals for a new Economy' we be out in November.

Jul 2020

1 hr 18 min

In this podcast I talk to Maarten about the design process, Good and bad teachers, Leadership and diversity, Heuristics, the consequences of stereotypes in Leadership and Fake it 'till you make it...

Jul 2020

1 hr 4 min

An interview with Eleni Menegatou about her vision on Leadership, growing up on a Greek island, her grandfather, super powers and woman's rights.

Jun 2020

58 min 37 sec