The Fangirl Business

The Fangirl Business

Dr. Chrisha Anderson and Catherine McKenna process feelings surrounding the fandom's emotional rollercoaster of Supernatural coming to an end. Join us for fangirling, fun, and feels as we process and theorize our way through the final season of the longest science fiction/genre show in American television history! Special thanks and credit to our amazing contributors: Logo: Gio_Gui Music: VooDooBlooze Editing: Chris Anderson, Catherine McKenna Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast is intended to be for entertainment and educational purposes only. It should never be used in place of advice given by a mental health or medical professional or as a substitute for mental health treatment. If you're struggling with a mental health issue, please seek professional help.

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*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting at Dean's funeral and ending at the bridge reunion. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine begin their discussion with Dean's funeral, and proceed through to the brothers' reunion at the bridge.  Along the way, they discuss everything from the way Sam's life montage invokes S14's "Nightmare Logic" to Dean drinking El Sol beer in heaven as they continue to investigate the many allusions to something being "wrong" with the events of the finale. Their conclusion? Given all that they have uncovered, canon for them ends in E19.Links from discussion:Supernatural Beer Info: https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/167499752865/hey-what-are-your-tags-for-beersign-meta-thanks

Apr 4

1 hr 37 min

*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting with a discussion of the barn setting and including the entirety of Dean's death scene. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the barn set and its connection to Season 4's "Heaven and Hell" before approaching Dean's death scene and the dialogue between him and Sam. Pulling out key lines of dialogue, they discuss the implications of what each the brothers said. Links from discussion:The Barn Set & "Heaven and Hell": https://twitter.com/NorthernSprw/status/1346493443321831428?s=20Vampire Queer Coding & "Carry On": https://404dumbitch.tumblr.com/post/640381858210807808/the-most-hated-film-of-its-time

Mar 4

1 hr 15 min

*CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On" up to and including the vampire fight, but prior to Dean's death. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clips in this episode, as we feel that they could be triggering. Please take care of yourselves, friends.*In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine break down the structure and content of "Carry On" in order to analyze why, exactly, the episode didn't work: how it deviates from the trajectory of S15, and how it conflicts with established canon. They also discuss the visual cues scattered throughout the episode that seem to indicate there may be an altered reality of some sort at play throughout the finale.Links from discussion:Corelli Pizza Info: https://naruhearts.tumblr.com/post/173616333026/thedogsled-prairiedust-spnjohnlocked Supernatural Beer Info: https://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/167499752865/hey-what-are-your-tags-for-beersign-meta-thanksVampire Queer Coding & "Carry On": https://404dumbitch.tumblr.com/post/640381858210807808/the-most-hated-film-of-its-time

Feb 23

1 hr 31 min

 In this episode of The Fangirl Business, Chrisha and Catherine talk about their upcoming project, "Reclaiming Supernatural," a rewatch with a twist that will start back at season one. They also discuss their next steps, which includes a final deconstruction, analysis, and rejection of the series finale, "Carry On," using a literary lens. 

Feb 17

40 min 1 sec

*S15E20 SPOILERS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE*Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all-new State of the Fandom (SotF) episode, after a much needed haitus! In this podcast, they discuss this transitional period for the fandom and their own personal journeys post Supernatural's finale, and they hint at what's coming next for The Fangirl Business! CONTENT WARNING: While it is not the focus, this episode does touch upon the series finale for Supernatural, and briefly mentions some of the triggers from it. 

Jan 30

1 hr 10 min

*S15E20 SPOILERS BELOW*In their overview of Supernatural’s finale, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their personal reactions and the many triggers embedded within the narrative.Note: There are no audio clips in this episode of The Fangirl Business.CONTENT WARNING: Discussion of abuse, childlessness, ableism, misogyny, queer erasure, suicide, & suicidal ideation.IF YOU NEED SUPPORT:https://www.imalive.org/online/ (offers online chat)Text SHARE to the Crisis Text Line741741 in the USA686868 in Canada85258 in the UK50808 in IrelandIF YOU WANT TO DONATE:The Castiel Project: https://give.thetrevorproject.org/fundraiser/3037563Dean Winchester Is Love: https://donate.nami.org/fundraiser/3040106The Sam Winchester Project: https://www.togetherwerise.org/fundraise/samwinchesterThe Jack Kline Project: https://charity.gofundme.com/o/en/campaign/random-acts-10-year-anniversary/MeganCrockerIn honor of Eileen Leahy: https://www.nad.org/donate/The Eileen Leahy Fundraiser: https://www.mightycause.com/story/OfvepfThe Miracle Project: https://secure.aspca.org/team/the-miracle-projectGabriel’s Gift: https://fundraise.actionagainsthunger.org/fundraiser/gabrielsgiftThe Charlie Bradbury Project: https://www.classy.org/fundraiser/3042431Additional Links:Here’s a Buzzfeed article about the finale that Chrisha and Catherine both found helpful: https://www.buzzfeed.com/deirdre-t/supernaturalas-legacy-the-trauma-of-silence-1b17yhc5ye?utm_source=dynamic&utm_campaign=bfsharetwitterTwo “fix-it” fics Chrisha and Catherine found helpful are:“Carry On” by Castielslostwings https://archiveofourown.org/works/27648386“Being and Having” by tricia_16 https://archiveofourown.org/works/27678379PS: Catherine here. I say at one point that the CW is generally progressive. We recorded this before I realized just how much hurt the CW has inflicted to other audiences this year, including Riverdale and The 100. I have been so saddened and upset to learn all of this. 

Dec 2020

1 hr 34 min

*S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW*The time has come, wayward friends... our LAST podcast before we know it all! Join Chrisha and Catherine as they discuss all things Destiel in Inherit The Earth, including Cas' loud absence, Dean's self-actualization, and what they believe we may be exploring the exact nature of in Act 2!CONTENT WARNING: This episode delves into theories for Destiel and Cas' endgame, which are HOPEFUL and STILL STAND! We know how hard hope can be, and we know how hard saying goodbye to our show is. Please listen only if and when you feel up to it. We'll be here when you're ready!Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

1 hr 52 min

*S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine's initial reaction to "Inherit the Earth" was very much "WTAF?" However, after some discussion, and some delving into the details, their ultimate take is: "GENIUS!" Come along for the ride as they discuss the penultimate episode and all that's going on just underneath its surface.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

1 hr 30 min

*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW*At last... pie! Come join Chrisha and Catherine in their most joyous podcast episode to date, as they squee and sob their way through Destiel going CANON! Beyond the squee, they process their feelings about the ship and what it means for them and for queer representation. And because they can't help themselves, they delve into possible theories for the last two episodes, including the excitement and fear of having hope.CONTENT WARNING: This episode delves into theories for Destiel and Cas' endgame, which are HOPEFUL and STILL STAND! We know how hard hope can be, and we know how hard saying goodbye to our show is. Please listen only if and when you feel up to it. We'll be here when you're ready!Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

2 hr 15 min

*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW*In this episode of highly delicious and nutritious kale-like content, Chrisha and Catherine start their discussion of Despair, including real world context, guest stars, Dean's dramatic change after the departure of Chuck, Dad!Sam, the parallels between Sam and Jack, Sam's leadership, and Jack's maturity. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

1 hr 10 min

*S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW*In this episode (the last one before the subtext became the text!), Chrisha and Catherine discuss the parallels between Adam and Seraphina and Dean and Cas and consider the implications of Chuck's revelations about Amara and Castiel from a shipping perspective.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

48 min 47 sec

*S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW*In another supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine begin the work of analyzing "Unity." In an excellently crafted episode that generated a lot  of big feelings, they hone in on Dean's rage, Sam's vulnerability, and Cas' free will.  Additionally, they discuss the nuanced way in which Amara was portrayed in this episode: building toward a redemption arc, which was interrupted by Chuck's abuse and manipulation. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

1 hr 41 min

*S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW*In this mini shipping episode about "Drag Me Away (From You)", Chrisha and Catherine delve into music choices, prayer in Supernatural, the mirroring of Dean and Travis, and Dean's continued lack of sexual interest in female characters this season.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Music credits: The Ink Spots, "If I Didn't Care"

Nov 2020

34 min

*S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine could not contain their excitement about DESTIEL GOING FREAKING CANON in "Despair" and literally started recording this within 15 minutes of the episode ending on the East Coast. Come listen to them screech, sob, and celebrate Castiel telling Dean that HE LOVES HIM, and share their love for the endurance of a ship that refused to quit. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

18 min 57 sec

*S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW*It's another supersized podcast from Chrisha and Catherine! In it, they discuss the hits and misses of "Drag Me Away (From You)", including the troubling depiction of therapy, characterization choices, and the way that the episode depicted early childhood trauma and its impact on Dean's current behavior. They also cheer for Sam. Like, a lot. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Nov 2020

1 hr 33 min

*S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter"'s shipping elements, focusing in on Dean and Cas' parenting, that photo Cas used to summon the crossroads demon, and the problematic nature of Amara and Dean's past "relationship." They go on to muse about the series finale and what the effects may be for viewers past and present should the ship go/not go canon in a big way.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW Music credits: Taylor Swift, "I Did Something Bad"; "End Game"

Oct 2020

55 min 21 sec

*S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW*In this supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter," which was split between a lot of cuteness and a lot of heavy content. They squee over Cas' return and all the adorable moments in which Jack emulates his dads, but then turn to more serious topics: the way in which the episode explores the dark side of humanity, the price of "gifts" from deities, and Jack's secret. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Oct 2020

1 hr 35 min

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*In this episode (recorded just before the end of hiatus), Chrisha and Catherine look back at elements that have been laid down in previous seasons as they theorize about what may come in the final few episodes of Supernatural.  With the relevance of the Garden fresh on their minds from "Destiny's Child," they start their discussion back in Season 9 with Gadreel, the Garden's failed guardian, and examine the mystery of what exactly happened in the world's first Paradise. They end by comparing discussing the parallels between the book of Revelation and Cas' prediction of a new Paradise, brought about by Jack. In between, they discuss heroes and villains, the role of Lucifer, parallels, and an ending tied to healing from trauma. Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Oct 2020

1 hr 20 min

*S15E14 SPOILERS BELOW*They've survived their very last (and longest!) Hellatus, and Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all new, super-sized podcast about "Last Holiday!"  They have an honest conversation about missing Cas, squee about all the cuteness from this episode, discuss the problematic ways in which torture and its repercussions were addressed and overlooked, and discuss the healing that is underway in the parent-child relationship between Dean and Jack.Special guest appearance: Gabriel the cat, adding purring to the ambienceSupernatural audio clip credits: The CW 

Oct 2020

1 hr 27 min

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*Join Chrisha and Catherine for a 2-for-1 shipping special, as they delve into the Destiel subtext of both Galaxy Brain AND Destiny's Child! From porn jokes to clinking glasses to toddler co-parenting to intricate religious symbolism, our show (and this podcast!) has it all! “Galaxy Brain” and “Destiny’s Child” audio clip credits: The CW

Oct 2020

1 hr 9 min

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*Well, folks, it finally happened: filming wrapped on the final episode of Supernatural. In this week's "State of the Fandom" (SotF), Chrisha and Catherine walk us through their experience of The Last Day. From the genius and viral "Thank You Supernatural" hashtag from fanfic author tricia_16, to tributes from past and present guests and costars, to messages from the show's leads, it was a day full of emotion: love, sadness, pride, and overwhelming gratitude. The episode closes with some squeeing from Jensen's recent interview with Michael Rosenbaum--and some very exciting and well-timed good news, which gives Chrisha and Catherine some hope for the future.Audio clip credits: "Inside of You Podcast with Michael Rosenbaum"

Sep 2020

1 hr 14 min

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*The adjective of the past week for the fandom is probably "intense." In this week's "State of the Fandom" (SotF) Chrisha and Catherine discuss the many difficult moments of the past seven days, touching upon interactions between parts of the fandom, the crew, and the writers. In the process, they discuss the analogy of "family" in the fandom and the anxiety about the upcoming transition from an actively filming show to a concluded series.Audio clip credits: The CW

Sep 2020

39 min 1 sec

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*In their latest State of the Fandom (SotF) episode, Chrisha and Catherine tackle the most recent fandom events in the lead up to Supernatural's seven final episodes. This week, they discuss the production board and its quotes- and songs-of-the-day, the new promo for the final episodes, the last first day of filming and actor goodbyes, and the epic new short film by Jake Abel, Bravelecki. Music credit: The Cab, "Angel with a Shotgun"

Sep 2020

47 min 1 sec

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine continue their new State of the Fandom (SofF) episodes! This week, they look into fandom speculation as to where Misha is currently located, examine their very different reactions to the news about Jensen's new show, and rave about Jake Abel's recent "quarantine with a twist" series on Instagram. During it all, they get real about their feelings and find laughter and reasons for hope. 

Aug 2020

32 min 58 sec

*SPOILERS FROM RECENT CREATION PANELS, LONDON PANEL, and PANEL WITH COREY BOOKER AND MJ HEGAR BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine get real with feels as they discuss the cast's recent return to Vancouver, the unexpected panels from the past 10 days, and the vague-yet-concerning references the actors have made to the show and the end point for Castiel. They break down recent events, fandom and personal feelings, and give logical reasons why we can hold on to hope.Corey Booker & MJ Hegar audio clip credit: Misha Collins' YouTube Channel

Aug 2020

32 min 8 sec

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15 BELOW*They're back--and Chrisha and Catherine celebrating all things Charlie for 2020 Pride! Come take a stroll with them down memory lane as they discus the adorable, smart, geeky glory that is Charlie Bradbury: the most beloved openly queer character in the history of Supernatural.(Note: There is some discussion of Dean's sexuality in this episode)Supernatural audio clip credits: The CWMusic credits: Katrina and the Waves, "Walking On Sunshine"

Aug 2020

58 min 10 sec

*S15E13 SPOILERS BELOW*In part two of their multi-part episode on "Destiny's Child," Chrisha and Catherine talk about the many exciting reveals in this episode that feed into the wider story arc of S15. They do metal analysis on the mythological cosmology of Supernatural's universe, focusing on The Empty, the Garden, the Framework, souls, and much more!Audio clip credits: The CW and The WB

May 2020

52 min 50 sec

*S15E13 SPOILERS BELOW*Most of us can agree that episode 13 was a bit of a bumpy ride. Join Chrisha and Catherine as they examine the flaws and their fave moments from "Destiny's Child" in this first of what will likely be a FOUR-part podcast on the episode. The two discuss issues such as continuity errors and perceived character inconsistencies as well as some of their favorite individual moments from the episode. In Part 2, they'll go on to discuss everything that they loved about the wider story arc and how this episode fit into the season thus far.Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW and The WBMusic credits: Savage Garden, "I Want You"

Apr 2020

1 hr 2 min

*S15E8 SPOILERS BELOW*We're celebrating a very special someone's birthday in this special edition of The Fangirl Business: fangirl-in-training, Zoey, just turned 8! In this episode, Zoey discusses her favorite Supernatural character, Rowena, her experience with the Collins' cookbook, The Adventurous Eaters Club, and her fave songs from Radio Company and Louden Swain. Plus, we get the scoop on her family's best (and wackiest) GISH moments!All Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW"Cooking With Maison and West" clip credit: Misha CollinsMusic credits: Radio Company, "Cannonball"; Louden Swain (featuring Ruthie Connell), "Bang Bang"

Apr 2020

31 min 48 sec

*S15E12 SPOILERS BELOW*Yes, there were some big reveals and even bigger questions in episode 12 ... but Chrisha and Catherine really loved all the squishy human goodness in the middle of it all: lots of feels, lots of growth, lots of family moments. All audio clip credits: The CW

Apr 2020

54 min 13 sec

*S15E12 SPOILERS BELOW*Big stuff was revealed in episode 12, and Chrisha and Catherine are digging into it in this first part of another multi-part podcast. From the workings of Supernatural's cosmos, to the divide between cosmic beings and humans when it comes to valuing human life, to meta commentary on contemporary issues in our own world-Chrisha and Catherine dig into the big picture in this first installment on "Galaxy Brain.""Galaxy Brain" audio clip credits: The CW"The Monster at the End of This Book" audio clip credits: Warner Brothers

Mar 2020

47 min 28 sec

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E11 BELOW*Chrisha and Catherine take the time to delve into some theories they've been working on ... since January. Yup. Big stuff. Angels, demigods, hope, the upending of entire systems--they talk about it all in this last hiatus podcast before Supernatural returns tomorrow with Episode 12!  If you can't wait to watch more fresh Supernatural episodes tomorrow, or if you're looking for some encouragement about how the series may end, take a listen!

Mar 2020

26 min 46 sec

There's been a lot going on in the past few weeks for the SPNFamily.Chrisha and Catherine talk about the many hits that the fandom (and the world) have been taking, with an eye to how we can support and uplift each other, and what they are doing personally to cope during these unsettling times.Hang in there, fam. We love you. 

Mar 2020

40 min 53 sec

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E11 BELOW*In the second of their two-part deep dive about Dean Winchester, Chrisha and Catherine examine Dean's healing and growth over the course of his 15-year story. They delve into concepts such as post-traumatic growth (healing from trauma stronger than before the trauma occurred) and re-parenting (giving ourselves what our parents did not give us in our childhoods) as key facets of Dean's journey, as well as discussing their hopes for Dean as he moves forward.Supernatural audio clip credits: Warner Brothers & The CW

Mar 2020

52 min 44 sec

*SPOILERS THROUGH S15E11 BELOW*Trigger Warning: The episode includes conversation about anger, trauma, abandonment, and self-hatred, as well as an in-depth discussion of the clinical definition of PTSD (starting at 44:42 and ending at 56:26).In the first of their hiatus episodes, Chrisha and Catherine start with Dean Winchester's own query, "I don't know why I get so angry," as a jumping off point for looking at how Dean's past trauma and coping mechanisms have shaped his behavior today. This deep dive goes all the way back to Season 1, and spans the course of all fifteen seasons. (Their next episode will look at Dean's healing and growth!)Supernatural audio clip credits: Warner Brothers & The CWDean and anger opening audio edit credit: Mel, @melsedits and @mishasdiary (Twitter)

Mar 2020

1 hr 4 min

*S15E11 SPOILERS BELOW*Join Chrisha and Catherine for a wild ride into shippiness in part three of their three-parter on "The Gamblers," where they talk about the Destiel callouts in the episode, Cas and Dean's co-parenting, and the state of Destiel as we head into the last eight episodes of the series. Also, be prepared for a lot of Lizzo. "The Gamblers" audio clip credits: The CWMusic credits: Lizzo, "Truth Hurts," "Boys," "Good As Hell," and "Heaven Help Me"

Feb 2020

52 min 1 sec

*S15E11 SPOILERS BELOW*In part two of their three-parter, Chrisha and Catherine talk about Cas' continuing BAMFiness, Jack's brokenness, and that incredible reunion scene at the end of "The Gamblers." They also discuss the problem of Cas' power for the writers, Cas' as a parent, and how Sam and Dean's compassion was put to the test in the face of seeing Jack again."The Gamblers" audio clip credits: The CWMusic credit: Lizzo, "Good As Hell"

Feb 2020

48 min 11 sec

*S15E11 SPOILERS BELOW*In part one of their three-parter on "The Gamblers," Chrisha and Catherine talk about how this entire episode was a game changer (pun INTENDED) for the Winchesters: our heroes are back, baby! Bonus convo about Supernatural's cosmology, different expectations with different writers, and the tie-ins to the last episode. Part two will focus mainly on Jack and Cas, with a little bit of the Winchesters at the end!"The Gamblers" audio clip credits: The CW

Feb 2020

59 min 41 sec

*S15E10 SPOILERS BELOW*In part three of their three-parter, Chrisha and Catherine address all the stuff that was just under the surface of the weirdness that was "The Heroes' Journey." Turns out, there was a LOT. By turns, the two discuss Destiel hopes and dreams, Dean's work to overcome the legacy of toxic masculinity in his life and its intersections with his sexuality, and that dance number. "The Heroes' Journey" audio clip credits: The CWMusic credit: Cole Porter, "Let's Misbehave"

Jan 2020

43 min 48 sec

*S15E10 SPOILERS BELOW*There was a LOT going on in Supernatural's most recent episode. In part two of their three-parter on "The Heroes' Journey," Chrisha and Catherine delve into what made this episode tick, including "what makes a hero a hero?", and the answers to ongoing fandom pet peeves that the episode provided. "The Heroes' Journey" audio clip credits: The CW

Jan 2020

54 min 38 sec

*S15E10 SPOILERS BELOW*In part one of their three-parter on "The Heroes' Journey," Chrisha and Catherine straight up nerd out over the components surrounding the episode. They talk about imagery, the literary stuff that underpins the episode's title, music, and more! Come listen to the geekery. It's super fun. "The Heroes' Journey" audio clip credits: The CWMusic credit: Warren Zevon, "Werewolves of London"

Jan 2020

19 min 5 sec

*S15E9 SPOILERS BELOW*In part three of their three-parter on "The Trap," Chrisha and Catherine have all the fun talking about shipping. All the fun. They discuss the quandary of whether or not Dean and Cas' relationship can even be considered subtext at this point, look at the parallels the show is drawing between Dean/Cas and Eileen/Sam, and look at the ways (both overt and subtle) in which "The Trap" pays tribute to Destiel."The Trap" audio clip credits: The CW

Jan 2020

53 min 59 sec

*S15E9 SPOILERS BELOW*In part two of their three-parter on "The Trap," Chrisha and Catherine focus on the platonic aspects of Dean and Castiel's interactions in the episode. They discuss Cas' assertiveness and confidence and his new-found ability to hold boundaries, while also examining, in-depth, Dean's emotional growth as a character. Also they fangirl. A LOT. "The Trap" audio clip credits: The CW

Jan 2020

41 min 16 sec

*S15E9 SPOILERS BELOW*In part one of their three-parter on "The Trap," Chrisha and Catherine focus their discussion on the Sam, Eileen, and Chuck portions of the episode. Their analysis includes an in-depth look at the connections between hope, free will, discerning truth from lies, and just how God-damned awful Chuck is (Yeah. Pun intended.)."The Trap" audio clip credits: The CW

Jan 2020

42 min 34 sec

Note: Our intro in this episode includes promo materials for the rest of the season. Just wanted to give y'all a heads up.In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine take the opportunity to talk through feelings surrounding the cast and crew's return to the set of Supernatural and the emotional content that has been released on social media this week from the leads. As the end of Supernatural draws closer, they discuss coping strategies and ways that we can all support each other as part of the SPNFamily. Introductory promotional credit: Shaving People Punting ThingsIntroductory music credit: Radio Company, "Drowning"

Jan 2020

57 min 5 sec

*S15 SPOILERS THROUGH EP8 BELOW*In this last of their three-part hiatus episode, Chrisha and Catherine reflect back on what we've learned thus far as a way of sussing out where we may be headed in the second half of Supernatural's 15th season. During part of the podcast, they revisit the S15 poster and look with fresh eyes at the imagery--and discuss everything from the Judeo-Christian meaning of octagrams to the traditional meaning of paired angels in medieval manuscripts--all with an eye to thinking through what may be next (in other words, WE GEEKED THE HECK OUT ON THIS ONE).Make sure you listen to the end for a (happy!) announcement--and #DramaticHairballsPart2.All Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW, and The WB

Jan 2020

35 min 43 sec

*S15 SPOILERS THROUGH EP8 BELOW*In this second of three hiatus episodes, Chrisha and Catherine examine the role of subtext over the course of season 15. From mixtapes to "well, Cas, not for nothing, but..." to Purgatory (and Leviathan blossoms!), they delve into the past and present of Destiel and Dean's sexuality--and have a lot of fun in the process. Note: We kept the language profanity-free as always, but this podcast does include discussions of sex and sexuality and makes reference to sexual metaphors.We are very much aware that we are two women talking about the sexuality of men. If anything we say is ever insensitive or inaccurate, please feel empowered to let us know. We strive to share our own truths while also being as inclusive as we possibly can.All Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW, and The WB

Jan 2020

56 min 42 sec

*S15 SPOILERS THROUGH EP8 BELOW*In this first of three hiatus episodes, Chrisha and Catherine start with a retrospective, reflecting back on "The Road So Far." They explore many of the fall's revelations and its ongoing themes now that we have reached the midseason finale and have a broader perspective on Season 15. Make sure you listen to the end for #DramaticHairballs and tantruming toddlers. This is real-life podcasting, folks. :)All Supernatural audio clip credits: The CW, and The WB

Jan 2020

47 min 8 sec

*S15E8 SPOILERS BELOW*"Our Father Who Aren't In Heaven" (aka #WhatTheChuck) had a big title ... and it was a big episode. Chrisha and Catherine unpack moments big and small, squee over the incredible character returns, and hypothesize about where we might be headed next. Spoilers: Catherine is incredibly proud of Dean and may mention it a few times during the episode. :D"Our Father Who Aren't In Heaven" audio clip credits: The CW

Dec 2019

56 min 56 sec

*S15E7 SPOILERS BELOW*In Part 3 of their 3-parter on "Last Call," Chrisha and Catherine delve into the subtext of the episode: namely the allusions to Dean's possible bisexuality and Destiel references. And they had a lot of fun doing so. :DNote: We are very much aware that we are two women talking about the sexuality of men. If anything we say is ever insensitive or inaccurate, please feel empowered to let us know. We strive to share our own truths while also being as inclusive as we possibly can."Last Call" audio clip credits: The CW

Dec 2019

44 min 46 sec