Making a Monster: The Tapes

Crime+Investigation

How do you get into the mind of the devil, when that devil is trying to get into yours?Alongside Crime+Investigation’s brand new TV show Making a Monster, the partner podcast series Making a Monster: The Tapes has exclusive access to extra interview recordings from the forensic psychiatrists, psychologists and pathologists featured within the eight-part TV broadcast.Hosted by British television presenter Cherry Healey (BBC’s Inside the Factory), Making a Monster: The Tapes will provide insight into the field of investigating the psyches of some of the most notorious serial killers of all time, including Robert Black, Rose West and Levi Bellfield. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Criminal profiler Professor Paul Britton and geographic profiler Professor Sam Lundrigan joined podcast producer Sam Pearson for a special live interview at the first CrimeCon UK in September 2021. Both contributors to Crime+Investigation's Making a Monster, they discussed their careers and their thoughts on the true crime genre.You can find out more about CrimeCon UK by searching online or social media, and watch more from the event on Crime+Investigation's YouTube channel. If you haven't already, catch the Making a Monster TV series on Crime+Investigation Play.This special bonus episode of Making a Monster: The Tapes was produced and hosted by Sam Pearson. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Nov 2

28 min 44 sec

"No crime is ever committed in a random location."Dr Samantha Lundrigan’s expertise lies in geographic profiling systems and the spatial behaviour of criminals. Dr Lundrigan has worked closely with police and provided offender and geographic profiles on a series of serious crime investigations. She has also provided training to police officers in the area of environmental criminology and investigative psychology. Dr Lundrigan brings her knowledge to help us understand how a serial killer’s geography may influence their crimes.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Apr 2020

20 min

"If it can be imagined, no matter how depraved, it can be done."Dr Eric Cullen is a Clinical Forensic Psychologist and has spent much of his working life working in prisons throughout the UK, including the therapeutic prison, Grendon. Dr Cullen brings his expertise with dangerous offenders to the fore, and analyses what key areas of their lives cause our serial killers to commit murder.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

20 min

"I believe it was in every sense of the word a tragedy."Professor Jethro Toomer has spent over 35 years practising forensic and clinical psychology. Professor Toomer has worked at Florida International University, as well as a treatment consultant for the NBA and the NFL. He also specialises in death row cases, and has interviewed a number of high-profile serial killers, including Ted Bundy and Aileen Wuornos. Professor Toomer carried out the psychological assessment of Wuornos prior to her trial, where she discussed her troubled life and transition to serial killing in unprecedented detail.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

27 min 44 sec

"He was plagued with these fantasies, with these thoughts, about wanting to harm, and subjugate, and even murder women."Dr Fred Berlin is an American psychiatrist and sexologist specializing in sex offences. Dr Berlin has been an attending psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore since 1978, where he also founded the 'Sexual Disorders Clinic'. He has appeared as an expert witness in numerous high-profile trials, including that of Jeffrey Dahmer. Dr Berlin testified for Ross at trial, and also supported him through his attempts to bring forward his death penalty.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

34 min 43 sec

"It's hard to be a serial killer and have remorse. I mean, you could cry yourself to death thinking about what you've done."Dr Richard Rappaport is a clinical psychologist based in California who has profiled and testified for numerous murder cases, including as an expert witness in John Wayne Gacy's trial.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

20 min 59 sec

"He was a clown. And he played the part of a clown even when he wasn't made up."A clinical psychologist, Dr Richard Rappaport interviewed John Wayne Gacy for over 65 hours, gaining a deep understanding of his psyche and the factors that drove him to kill.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

27 min 46 sec

"It's their fetishes that feed how they kill."Dr Richard Shepherd’s career as one of the UK’s most distinguished forensic pathologists saw him involved in disasters from the Hungerford shootings to the Bali bombings, and in high-profile cases from Harold Shipman to Stephen Lawrence. Dr Shepherd has examined over 23,000 bodies in his working life and provides an incredible insight into the minds of serial killer through their horrific actions.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

12 min 43 sec

"People who do bad things sometimes believe they're doing it for the best of motives."Dr Adrian Needs is a forensic psychologist based at the University of Portsmouth. Prior to this, he spent 14 years working in HM Prison Service, rising to the rank of Principal Psychologist, working in high security prisons such as Wakefield, Full Sutton, and Hull Special Unit. Having spent many hours interviewing notorious paedophiles and killers, Adrian can delve into the darkest parts of criminal minds.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

25 min 1 sec

"On the other side of that narrow wooden door was a viper's nest of depravity."Dr Eric Cullen is a clinical forensic psychologist who has spent much of his working life in prisons throughout the UK, including HM Prison Grendon, the therapeutic prison. Dr Cullen brings his expertise with dangerous offenders to the fore, and analyses what key areas of their lives cause our serial killers to commit murder. Here, Dr Cullen discusses Rose West.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

14 min 48 sec

"He was signaling for years his intent."Dr Eric Cullen is a clinical forensic psychologist who has spent much of his working life in prisons throughout the UK, including HM Prison Grendon, the therapeutic prison. Dr Cullen brings his expertise with dangerous offenders to the fore, and analyses what key areas of their lives cause our serial killers to commit murder. Here, Dr Cullen discusses Stephen Griffiths.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Mar 2020

20 min 28 sec

"Only very occasionally do I sit across something and think to myself, 'there's something that's just missing in you'."Dr Richard Badcock is a consultant forensic psychiatrist whose career has included some of the UK’s most violent and dangerous offenders. Having worked in numerous medium and high security prisons, he has helped the police on a number of major investigations, such as Harold Shipman, and is currently teaching psychodynamics and psychological profiling at the University of Bradford.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Feb 2020

22 min 19 sec

"He said it was like a theatre, like the curtains opening at the start of a play."A consultant forensic psychiatrist, Dr Richard Badcock provides Making A Monster with an expert overview of some of the key issues faced by our serial killers – including a personal insight into the horror of Robert Black’s crimes after he was called to assess him.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Feb 2020

29 min 56 sec

"That led to a need for power and underpinned his sadistic streak."Dr Julian Boon is a chartered forensic psychologist and an honorary senior lecturer in Forensic Psychology at the University of Leicester. Dr Boon has been involved in a professional profiling capacity in assisting Police forces around the world for over 35 years and his technique in offender profiling served as the inspiration for the ITV drama Wire in the Blood, as well as being the focus of the C4 documentary The Real Cracker. He brings his expert knowledge and experience to each episode to provide an in-depth profile of our serial killers.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Feb 2020

24 min 56 sec

"If you're not careful he projects the picture of his father onto you."Dr Bob Johnson is a psychiatrist and has worked closely with Robert Maudsley at HM Prison Parkhurst on the Isle of Wight, where after extensive interviews and counselling, Dr Johnson believed that he was making progress and could be rehabilitated. Dr Johnson is able to make some fascinating revelations about Maudsley the killer – and how serial killers are a product of their environments.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Feb 2020

23 min 37 sec

"They find that exploiting other people becomes necessary for them to have any feeling of self-esteem."Professor Paul Britton is an expert criminal profiler, having spent more than 20 years working as a consultant clinical and forensic psychologist, as well as being the former head of the Regional Forensic Psychology Service for Trent. He previously advised the Home Office and Association of Chief Police Officers Crime Committee on offender profiling, and currently teaches clinical and forensic psychology at Birmingham City University.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Feb 2020

31 min 19 sec

"She is a most potent, powerful woman."Professor Paul Britton has advised on numerous high-profile cases such as the murder of James Bulger and the abduction of baby Abbie Humphries. He was also instrumental in the negotiations and interviews that caught Colin Ireland in 1993. As well as his expert view on all Making A Monster’s murderers, Professor Britton also brings his first-hand account of Rose West’s crimes to the fore for the first time, having visited the infamous Cromwell Street to aid the police in their investigation.Get in touch on social media by searching for Crime+Investigation and using #MakingAMonster, and leave your thoughts in the review section of your podcast app.Making a Monster: The Tapes features interviews recorded by Monster Films for the Crime+Investigation TV series, and was hosted by Cherry Healey, produced by Sam Pearson and Chloe Frost, with editing by Joel Porter. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Feb 2020

24 min 44 sec

Crime+Investigation's brand new podcast series Making a Monster: The Tapes features exclusive interviews with some of the top minds in criminology.Episodes include interviews with Dr Richard Badcock, Dr Fred Berlin, Dr Julian Boon, Prof Paul Britton, Dr Eric Cullen, Dr Bob Johnson, Dr Sam Lundrigan, Dr Adrian Needs, Dr Richard Rappaport, Dr Richard Shepherd and Prof Jethro Toomer.Hosted by Cherry Healey, the podcast series utilises exclusive, extra interviews with theese expert forensic psychiatrists, psychologists and pathologists recorded during the production of the new TV series Making a Monster.Download and subscribe to the podcast Making a Monster: The Tapes on your favourite podcast app and watch Making a Monster on Crime+Investigation from Monday 10th February at 9pm. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jan 2020

1 min 45 sec

In a television first, a group of the world's leading forensic psychologists and psychiatrists come together to share their own first-hand experiences and insights into the mind of a serial killer. The brand-new UK show, Making a Monster will lead viewers on a journey through the psyches of the most notorious serial killers of all-time. Through the lens of some of the world’s leading forensic psychiatrists and psychologists, each episode of Making a Monster tells the story of a killer’s life – from cradle to grave. With the use of psychological formulas, the experts endeavour to explain how monumental life events can lead people to commit the most appalling of crimes. The landmark series explores the psychology of serial killers by the men and women who have sat face to face with evil.Watch Making a Monster on Crime+Investigation from Monday 10th February at 9pm. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Jan 2020

1 min