The Lydian Spin

Lydia Lunch

A series of lively, deep and often hilarious interviews conducted by Lydia Lunch, one of the most vocal spoken word artists of this or any century and Tim Dahl, musician and general know it all.

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Eric Gardner is a professional drummer who has worked with some of the biggest names in the business. Eric started off touring with Gnarls Barkley, and has since toured and recorded with Cypress Hill, Iggy Pop, Morrisey, Steve Vai, MC5, Slash, Beck, Charlotte Gainsbourg, and numerous Tom Morello projects. He even got a chance to work with film score and Oingo Boingo legend Danny Elfman on 2012’s Oscar Winner Silver Linings Playbook. Eric also happens to be one of Tims oldest friends and earliest musical collaborators.

Dec 3

1 hr

In every generation, there are those who resist the sweeping tide of proscription and conformity. For New York based artist Gio Black Peter, such a reaction comes naturally. Through his work, he is able to break through the hardening shell of uniformity and tap into something more honest.  At its core, Gio’s art is a provocation and, whether addressing issues of violence or oppression, alienation or love, it seeks to spark a reaction in its audience. While that reaction may be visceral and dejected, or ecstatic and inspired, the ultimate aim is to fuel awareness, both of the self and society. In that, Peter’s art is a mirror of his own life—the two are, at times, indistinguishable. Cleary Gio's provocations are striking a nerve as he constantly having to battle against unwarranted censorship on social media.

Nov 26

1 hr

Artist, musician, record label founder and owner of Minneapolis' Grumpy's Bar, started Amphetamine Reptile Records (AmRep),  in the early 1980s. Amrep originally run out of a hand grenade crate kept under Tom's Marine Corps bunk, was conceived as a way for Tom to release records by his band Halo Of Flies. The label quickly became his full-time job and thrived into the 90s, releasing music by the Melvins, Helmet, Cows, Boss Hog and many others. It was also in the 90s when Tom fashioned his own popular line of Zippo lighters, festooned with artwork by Frank Kozik, Shag, Shepard Fairey, R. Crumb and Coop. Soon after that, Tom began to explore linoleum cut printing, which was paired with the records he was putting out. The combination of the music and the prints transformed the records into a high energy bombastic art object.

Nov 19

59 min 34 sec

Admiral Grey is known as the virtuosic frontwoman for Cellular Chaos ,and as a veteran underground NY multidisciplinary artist and performer in both the experimental music (Glass Lamborghini, Drayton Sawyer Gang) and theater scenes (Sister Sylvester, The Nerve Tank, The Drunkard's Wife). She has composed music, writing, video, theater, costume and puppets since she was a child, with her works across genres and mediums carrying a recognizable thread of humanist existentialism, clowning and pageantry, sincerity mixed with satire, tragicomedy, and a repurposed maximalism she calls Povluxe - a style of luxurious extravagance created out of poverty items like thrift, cheap goods and trash. She is currently producing a sweeping multimedia piece called The Human Dream Project which takes recordings of people intimately describing their dreams and illustrates them through puppetry, stop-motion animation, original music, and video art.

Nov 12

1 hr 11 min

Welsh poet and playwright Patrick Jones is one of Wales most prominent literary voices. In addition to his writing, Patrick has done so many other things.  In 1993 he founded the Blackwood Young Writers Group. He taught adult literacy, worked as a hospice aide and was employed at a factory in Chicago, where he did not even know what the product was. The underlying theme in all of his activities writing and otherwise, is social justice, and trying very hard to be the voice for the disaffected. This past October, Parthian Books released the 20th anniversary edition book of Patrick's poetry titled Fuse / Fracture (Poems 2001-2021).   

Nov 5

1 hr 12 min

Lydia and Tim ring in the Halloween weekend with members of Lydia's coven. Jasmine Hirst, Elise Passavant & Sadie Mae discuss a wide range of spooky subjects including, but not limited to psychic encounters with Andy Warhol, LSD laced gold leaf, the commodification of Halloween, swollen 16th century witch hands and penis snatching. This lively episode concludes with the Lydia and Rowland S. Howard's duet I Fell In Love with a Ghost. Happy Halloween!

Oct 29

51 min 47 sec

Tim Biskup is a Southern California artist whose practice is focused mainly on abstract and figurative painting, but also extends into sculpture, printmaking and music. He went to art school before entering the animation and illustration industries, where he honed his technical skills. In 1999 he gathered a community of artists and began hosting live art auctions at bars around Los Angeles. He quickly found an audience for his personal work and began a career showing his art in gallery settings. His complex color and design theories pushed forward a decidedly populist aesthetic which has continued to develop and morph over the years. From early 2017 until early 2020 he hosted open studio events at a small gallery space called Face Guts in Glassell Park, CA. In October of 2019 Tim’s retrospective monagraph/autobiography Tree of Life was published by Chronicle Chroma.

Oct 22

1 hr 14 min

Mariam Atash is an attorney with experience in the business, government relations, media and nonprofit sectors.  She serves on the United States Institute of Peace Gender and Law Working Group. She has also been an adjunct professor of law at The University of La Verne School of Law. Mariam was a senior advisor to the Commercial & Trade Counsel at the Embassy of Afghanistan in Washington, DC. She has taken part in numerous international conferences and speaking engagements on issues related to economic development, legal reform, women’s rights, and civil society capacity building. Zohra Atash, Mariam's sister joins her on this episode to discuss their involvement with the Nooristan Foundation, which is a non for profit that provides education for Afghani street children, trains impoverished women to become entrepreneurs and helps bring electricity and education to remote villages in Afghanistan. Throughout the conversation both Mariam and Zohra offer some deeper insight into the current events happening in Afghanistan.

Oct 15

1 hr 17 min

Sean Carnage is a big fan of rock, noise concerts, art, gay stuff and technology. In fact, over the past 40 plus years he has been either a promoter, writer, publisher, filmmaker, archivist and all around enthusiastic participant of all of the above.  In the 1990s in Cleveland Ohio Sean teamed up with his friend Brenda Mullen and published U.S. Rocker Magazine. He and Brenda built the magazine over a decade into Northeast Ohio's number 1 free underground music magazine. In the early 2000s, on the advice of Nandor Nevai, Sean moved to Los Angeles where he worked as an assistant to Larry Flynt. After working for Mr. Flynt, Sean continued to promote avant-garde acts throughout Los Angeles. He also became a producer of The Queer Edge with Jack E. Jett & Sandra Bernhard  , which aired on the pioneering Queer Television Network. If that is not enough, Sean helped invent a whole genre of pornography(Alt Porn) and filmed 29 mini documentaries, one of which featuring Ronnie James Dio goes viral and racks up millions of views on YouTube.

Oct 8

1 hr 7 min

Bassist Trevor Dunn began studying the electric bass right after his older brother brought home a 7” of Detroit Rock City. Soon after that, he quickly joined two bands, one was Ful Choke and the other,  was Gemini. In 1986, Trevor, along with Mike Patton and Trey Spruance started the band Mr. Bungle.  Mike Patton's success as the lead singer of Faith No More paved the way for Mr. Bungle being signed to Warner Brothers. In 2000, Mike relocated to Brooklyn, NY. Currently he plays in several bands such as Endangered Blood, Dan Weiss, Starebaby, SpermChurch and various projects under the direction of John Zorn. Mike also occasionally plays with Wendy Eisenberg, The Melvins, Kris Davis & Oliver Steidle.  He also recently founded the record label Riverworm Records. The first release on the fledgling label comes from Trevor’s project SpermChurch, a poly-electro, pan-genre duo featuring the him alongside Sannety, who covers the electronic portion of the pairing. The album can be purchased at:

Oct 1

1 hr 3 min

Vanessa Skantze is a Butoh artist who has performed and taught in the US and Europe for over 20 years. She became a student of Jinen Butoh founder Atsushi Takenouchi in 2003; having already co-created the sound/movement improvisation ensemble Death Posture in New Orleans. Currently based in Seattle, Washington, Vanessa is a co-founder of Teatro de la Psychomachia, a DIY space that has hosted national and international performing artists and musicians for more than a decade. Collaborations with sound artists have been a constant practice in solo and group performances; Vanessa embraces the art of deep listening improvisation as an essential communion with the body instrument and all life.  When you are done with listening to Vanessa's interview, check out Tim's new solo album Solo. The album can be purchased now on bandcamp.

Sep 24

1 hr 4 min

As a boy, Tyler Hubby began making films and photographs. While in high school, he was mentored by then unknown director David Fincher. Later on, Tyler went on to study film and photography at the San Francisco Art Institute with "low-fi" underground film legend George Kuchar. His subversive and irreverent short films and videos detailing fetishism, co-dependency and bodily mutations have screened internationally, and are featured in Jack Sargeant's book Cinema Contra Cinema. Tyler has documented artists such as Faust, Keiji Haino, John Fahey, Jim O'Rourke, Rhys Chatham, Arnold Dreyblatt, Zeena Parkins, Jonathan Kane and Tony Conrad. Furthermore, he has edited over 30 documentary films. Most notable among them are The Devil and Daniel Johnston, a biography of mentally ill artist/musician Daniel Johnston; The Final Member which follows the curator of the Icelandic Phallological Museum as he attempts to complete his exotic penis collection; The Great Invisible, which won the Grand Jury Prize at SXSW 2014. Tyler also served as an additional editor on the Oscar nominated Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired. Tyler wrote and directed Tony Conrad: Completely in the Present, a feature documentary about iconoclastic multi-media artist Tony Conrad that was named as one the best films of 2017 by Artforum. 

Sep 17

1 hr 8 min

Music critic Byron Coley wrote for Forced Exposure magazine in the 1980s until the magazine ceased publication in 1993. Prior to Forced Exposure, he wrote for NY Rocker, Boston Rock, and Take It! . During 1980s and '90s, he was a contributing writer to Spin. Byron has contributed liner notes to albums by The Flesh Eaters, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr., Yo La Tengo, John Fahey, and numerous others. He has also appeared in documentaries about artists Half Japanese, Minutemen, Jandek, and The Holy Modal Rounders. Byron is also a published poet and occasionally gives public readings of his work. He also wrote a biographies of Chuck Norris and the  Mötley Crüe. In 2010, Byron became involved with Feeding Tube Records in Northampton, Massachusetts, a record store where he sells rare items from his personal collection.

Sep 10

1 hr 9 min

Merrill Garbus is a founding member of the band Tune-Yards. The other regular member of the band is her partner Nate Brenner.  Back in 2009, Merrill recorded the first Tune-Yards album Bird-Brains on recycled cassette tape using a voice recorder and then self released it. The album was well received and led to the band being signed by 4AD records several months later. Since Bird-Brains Tune-Yards has released four more albums including Sketchy, which was released this past March.  Merrill has described Sketchy as a rediscovery of the joy in making music.   She and Nate also do soundtrack work. In 2018 Tune-Yards scored the excellent Boots Riley movie Sorry to Bother You.

Sep 3

1 hr 13 min

Bil Brown is a lens-based artist living and working in Los Angeles. Whether working in portraiture, fashion, or photojournalism, Bil’s imagery captures energetic moments of the conscious world, as well as the foreboding of what is to come. Often using his work as a platform for advancing ideas, social-change, and excising historical reference addressing current events, Bil pushes the boundaries of his visual storytelling as a “concrete-poetry” infused with empathy for our current cultural milieu. Bil’s still photography has been exhibited in numerous group and solo shows. His 2018 show at the Leica Gallery LA, PROTEST, documented the protests following the 2016 election of an American President. In 2020, during the global pandemic, Bil started a teaching series with Leica Akademie entitled Fragments Toward the History of Photography and plans on publishing a series of short run books covering the time leading up to and during the tumultuous 20th year of the 21st Century. Originally a writer, Bil is an MFA graduate of Naropa University’s Jack Kerouac School where his teachers included co-founder Allen Ginsberg. In the late 1990s Bil co-founded the Prague School of Poetics, which received grants from the Rockefeller Center, the NEA and Arts International. The school supported, published and ran community projects for artists and writers in Denver, Louisville, New York, Chicago and Prague. In 2000, The Prague school put on the summer festival of international arts Prazska Skola Poetiky. The festival focused on the relationship of the Avant Garde between the Americas and Eastern Europe. Participating artists included Czech Surrealists Jan and Eva Svankmejer,  Lydia, and Czech photographer Josef Koudelka. Bil lives in Los Angeles, CA with his family and often travels to Europe and Asia, and across the Americas.

Aug 27

1 hr 9 min

Jack Sargeant PhD is the author of various books on underground film and culture, including Flesh And Excess: On Underground Film, Against Control, Naked Lens: Beat Cinema, and Deathtripping: The Cinema of Transgression (republished as Deathtripping: The Extreme Underground). He has written introductory essays for works by Lydia Lunch, Joe Coleman, McLean Stephenson, and Karolina Urbaniak and Martin Bladh, among others. His writings focusing on underground film, outsider art, photography, and performance have appeared in numerous publications, journals, magazines, and liner notes. Jack has also written on true crime, death, and various other unusual subjects. He's also a curator and programmer of film and art, and an occasional visual artist.   In pre-pandemic days Jack enjoyed participating in public readings and talks. He is a co-founder of the Transgressive Cultures Conference, in Paris.  Against Control  and other titles can be purchased through the usual online sources, or via your local indie bookshop.

Aug 20

1 hr 13 min

Billy Chainsaw is an artist whose work uses a mix of pulp and the arcane to engage with ideas of mortality, magic and sensuality. Working with paints, screen prints, photographs and decals, Billy has developed a personal collection of imagery and gestural approaches which are recognizable yet seemingly open to infinite interpretations too. Billy cites the beat author William S. Burroughs as his "ghost muse". Like Burroughs, Chainsaw's art represents a collision of the matter of fact and the fantastical, the elemental and the quotidian, the highbrow and the lowbrow. Billy's work has been exhibited in many galleries including the Saatchi Gallery in London, and the Fleetwood Gallery in San Francisco. For many years he was also a film critic and cultural commentator, writing for publications such as Empire, Bizarre and Kerrang!

Aug 13

1 hr 19 min

Vocalist Shirley Manson has been the lead singer of the band Garbage since 1994. The band became one the best selling acts of the 1990s. Nearly thirty years later the band has just released their seventh album No Gods No Masters, which is a socially conscious  mix of goth and pop. In addition to her music Shirley has done a bit of acting. In 2008 she was in the second season of Terminator: The Sarah Chronicles. Shirley lives in Los Angeles with her husband sound engineer Billy Bush. You can see her perform live this summer, as Garbage will be on tour with Alanis Morissette and Cat Power through this coming fall.

Aug 6

1 hr 5 min

Without further delay we bring you Bob Calhoun. Bob is a San Francisco Bay Area author, journalist, and former punk wrestler and peepshow emcee. Since 2015, he has recounted his city's most gruesome and lurid events in his regular SF Weekly column, Yesterday's Crimes. His punk wrestling memoir, Beer, Blood & Cornmeal, is a national bestseller. His most recent book, The Murders That Made Us: How Vigilantes, Hoodlums, Mob Bosses, Serial Killers and Cult Leaders Built the San Francisco Bay Area tells the story of San Francisco through some of the cities most violent and depraved denizens.   Bob will be reading  live along with Lydia and Eugene Robinson at the Make Out Room August 5th.

Jul 31

1 hr 17 min

Since 1990, singer Lisa Kekaula has been the lead vocalist of The Bellrays. From 2003 to 2007, Lisa was part of a cast of vocalists who sang live with the surviving members of the MC5. Lisa has also been featured on many singles and album tracks for other artists including,  British house music band Basement Jaxx, and Crystal Method. In 2014, Lisa contributed vocals to two tracks for the Re-Licked album of Iggy and the Stooges songs re-recorded by former Stooges guitarist James Williamson. Lisa has also done recordings with Williamson to help fight Hawaiian homelessness. Lisa is married to Bellrays guitarist Robert Vennum, also of the Bellrays. In 2014, Lisa and Vennum released an album under the name Lisa and the Lips.

Jul 23

1 hr 8 min

Musician(drummer, percussionist, composer) Ian White is known for being the drummer of the London band Gallon Drunk. Ian is also a member of Lydia's band Big Sexy Noise. This year Ian via his instrumental solo project Blyth released an album titled Confessions of a Justified Sinner, which has been described by the Reprobate Press as "thunderous, organic-industrial collision of percussion and brutal instrumentation – a sound that at once obliterates and raises to levels of ecstasy, the soundtrack to a twisted road movie that doesn’t exist. In a world of increasing musical conformity and bland repetition, it’s an impressively original work".  The tracks Tongue Tied and Confessions of a Justified Sinner are included in this episode for your listening pleasure. Along with his musical pursuits, Ian is also an avid collector and trader of religious art and artifacts.   

Jul 16

1 hr 33 min

This week the Lydian Spin celebrates year two of the podcast. Lydia and Tim take time to look back, take stock, and of course share some of their fondest memories.  Thank you to all guests both past and future who have made this podcast so much fun to do.

Jul 9

54 min 21 sec

English rocker Faris Badwan is best known as the lead vocalist of The Horrors. Before beginning his association with The Horrors, he played with The Rotters. Faris is also an artist who briefly trained as an illustrator at the Central Saint Martins College of Art and Design. Check out some of his paintings below.

Jul 2

1 hr 25 min

Matilda Joon is a lover of words and language. She is also an avid diary writer, a wild child, teenage runaway, actress, and artist.  Matilda created art and chaos while having a rock club in a basement where all the cool bands came to play in the 90's. The rock club led to a Swedish television show called Chaos TV.   Matilda also has done performance art, and spoken word sourced from her backlog of journals. The Swedish audience were split between those who loved it and those who hated it. Last year, born out of frustration and boredom Matilda started a new spoken word project called JOON BABY JOON with music added from both Aron Aronsson guitarist in the legendary Swedish cult band The Leather Nun and the American poet and musician Ian Ottaway. 

Jun 25

59 min 13 sec

Sloppy Jane is a sometime eleven piece avant-rock act led by this week's guest Haley Dahl(no relation to Tim). The band is a revolving cast of collaborators. Elements of the live show include: laughter, choir vocals, xylophone, saxophone, kazoo, television, slide whistle, vomiting blue dye, a naked body, a rotting suit, guitar, bass, drums, tambourine, ruby red slippers, violent shifts in genre and speed, a make-believe maestro, and a set that does not stop moving once it has started. Haley currently resides in Los Angeles where she has been recording new music in various caves in and around Los Angeles.

Jun 18

1 hr 12 min

Moby was born in Harlem in 1965, and grew up playing in hardcore bands in and around New York City. Moby found commercial and critical success with his fifth album Play  which, after receiving little recognition, became an unexpected global hit in 2000. Moby has not toured since 2014, but continues to record and release albums; his nineteenth studio album, Reprise, was released in May 2021. A vegan for 34 years, he lives in Los Angeles where he enjoys hiking and considers animal rights activism to be his day job.

Jun 11

1 hr 15 min

Sydney Silver is a founding member of the seminal, all-female punk band The Lunachicks. The band released six albums and toured internationally for almost thirteen years. The New York Times described them as “feminist, trashy, righteous, foul-mouthed and certainly fun.” Sydney and her bandmate's have a book out titled Fallopian Rhapsody: The Story of the Lunachicks. which was released this past Tuesday by Hachette Books. The book is a coming-of-age tale about a band of NYC teenagers who would eventually become the Lunachicks. These teenagers forged a sisterhood, found salvation, and fervently crashed the gates of punk rock during the '90s, accidentally becoming feminist icons along the way. More than that, the book is a story about the enduring friendship among the book's three main character: Theo Kogan, Gina Volpe and Sydney, who formed the Lunachicks at LaGuardia High School in the late '80s and had a record deal with Blast First Records as teenagers, as a result of being discovered  one night by Kim Gordon and Thurston Moore. In addition to being an author, Sydney also is a successful entrepreneur. In 2005 she opened the acclaimed Roebling Tea Room in Willamsburg Brooklyn. Currently she runs Boss Coaching, which provides life and business coaching services.

Jun 4

1 hr 15 min

Writer Luc Sante was born in Belgium near the German border. His Family emigrated to the United States several times between 1959 and 1963, finally Settling in New Jersey. After college, Luc attended Columbia University, but did not graduate. Since 1984, Luc has been a teacher and a writer. Currently he teaches creative writing and the history of photography at Bard College. He is also a frequent contributor to the New York Review of Books. His publications include Low Life: Lures and Snares of Old New York, and The Factory of Facts and Folk Photography.  His latest work is Maybe the People Would Be the Times, a collection of essays.  

May 28

1 hr 8 min

Bassist and vocalist Gail Ann Dorsey spent close to two decades in David Bowie’s band. Her other steady gig, was with Lenny Kravitz. Gail has also worked with many other artists, including Boy George, Charlie Watts, Tears for Fears, Gang of Four, Jane Siberry, The National, and others. Originally from Philadelphia, Gail studied film for a bit at Cal Arts, but dropped out to pursue a music career in New York. She then moved to London in the 1980s, where in 1998 she released her first album, The Corporate World. After having found some success as a solo artist, Gail quickly became an in demand session and touring bassist. She has continued work on her solo material, and it has become a primary focus now that Covid-19 has halted live music performances.

May 21

1 hr 4 min

  Owen Kline is a New York based director, actor, screenwriter and cartoonist, who is best known for his role as Frank Berkman in The Squid And The Whale (2005). From early high school through his 20s, Owen has been spitting out an endless slew of self-generated DIY media including: comic books, sardonic fanzines and small joke books, novelty records and film shorts, including the delirious Jazzy for Joe (2014) starring the late talk show legend Joe Franklin as himself raising an abandoned child found on his doorstep. Owen's Fowl Play (2013), about a low-rent gang of aspiring cockfighters in Flushing, Queens, was selected by Josh & Benny Safdie for their Le Cinema Club repertory program in 2017.  His forthcoming feature length directorial debut is about a young cartoonist trapped in a self-destructive dream world of his own making. The film which is also penned by Owen is titled Two Against Nature, and is produced by the Safdie Brothers and will be released by A24 films in the near future. Owen can be heard every Friday at 4 on his KPISS.FM radio show Run ‘Em Off.

May 14

1 hr 11 min

Nine months ago Youtube commenter Eric Gabbard wrote the following about the seminal San Diego band Drive Like Jehu: I’ve listened to a “shit ton” of music in my life...obsessively at times...and I’m about to turn 46. This band was amazing. I keep coming back to it. I was a teenager at the time and listened to this, along with the Melvins, Fugazi, and another big one was Faith No More’s Angel Dust. Great times driving around at night listening to this disc without a care in the world... So goddamn good Musician and artist Rick Froberg fronted Drive Like Jehu and many noted bands that have inspired the same type of devotion and admiration in music fans like Eric. These bands include Pitchfork, Hot Snakes, and The Obits. Rick also has a devoted following as an artist. To date, Rick has created album covers and posters for all his bands—often under the moniker "Rick Fork". He has worked at Funny Garbage (Gary Panter’s interactive design company), contributed illustrations to the New York Times, created a line of T-shirts for Altamont Apparel, and shown his art at galleries across the country.

May 7

1 hr 2 min

Before the world heard of KISS, the New York Dolls, Marilyn Manson, or Ozzy Osbourne, there was Alice Cooper, the original shock-rock band. Dennis Dunaway is a founding member of the band.  As teenagers in Phoenix, Dennis and lead singer Vince Furnier, who would later change his name to Alice Cooper, started the band that would take them from Hollywood, to Detroit  and finally to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2011.  In 2015 Dennis wrote the book Snakes! Guillotines! Electric Chairs! , which is a riveting account of the band's creation in the '60s, the heyday in the '70s, and the legendary characters they met along the way. Dennis currently records and tours with Blue Coupe featuring Joe and Albert Bouchard of Blue Öyster Cult fame and singers Tish and Snooky who also happen to be the founders of  Manic Panic. 

Apr 30

1 hr 28 min

Andy Shernoff is the founder, songwriter and bass player for the proto punk band The Dictators. He has over 200 credits as a musician, producer and songwriter. Andy also has 35 film and television credits including the movies Kindergarten Cop and Boys Don't Cry and television shows Billions, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and LillyHammer. His mantra is "everyday you make music is a good day". Andy currently resides in the Hudson Valley with his wife Carla Rhodes and his trusty hounds Duchess and Maybellenne.

Apr 23

1 hr 4 min

Born in Siberia, Slava Mogutin is a New York based Russian-American multimedia artist and author exiled from Russia for his outspoken queer writing and activism. A third-generation writer and autodidact journalist and photographer, he became the first Russian to be granted political asylum in the US on the grounds of homophobic persecution. Informed by his bicultural dissident and refugee experience, Slava’s work examines the notions of displacement and identity, pride and shame, devotion and disaffection, love and hate. Slava is the author of seven books of writings in Russian, as well as three monographs of photography, Lost Boys, NYC Go-Go, and Bros & Brosephines, and two illustrated collections of poetry, Food Chain and Pictures & Words. He's the winner of Andrei Bely Prize for poetry and the Tom of Finland Foundation Award for artistic achievement. For more info please visit:

Apr 16

1 hr 16 min

Wayne Kramer was the lead guitarist of the legendary Detroit band the MC5. The band used music to fight many of the political battles of the late 1960s and early 1970s. The band's raucous and uncompromising performances also provided a complimentary soundtrack to the race riots that plagued Detroit during the 1960’s. The MC5’s political convictions ultimately led to FBI interventions and arrests. In 1975, Wayne was sentenced to federal prison for selling cocaine to an undercover agent. After his release, Wayne co-founded the non-profit group Jail Guitar Doors USA. The organization uses music and other art practices to provide incarcerated individuals a creative outlet, spiritual rehabilitation and a framework for coping with difficult situations. To date, Jail Guitar Doors USA has provided instruments to over 100 prisons.

Apr 9

1 hr 7 min

Lydia and Tim have stitched together a brisk episode to help get you into the Easter spirit. Lydia begins by giving a very interesting treatise into the meaning of Easter and why she believes Jesus was a homosexual drug dealer. Tim then presents the research he has been doing all week into April Fools' Day. Tim has gathered strong historical evidence that suggests that not only is April Fools' on the wrong day, but that the holiday is celebrated on the wrong month entirely. The episode is brought to a timely conclusion with an interview with French artist Paul Toupet. Paul sculpts wax puppets, which resemble children-like figures and rabbit masks. His sculptures with nucleated eyes are adorned in torn tissues or feathers and frequently have hair braids vomiting from the mouth. Paul is influenced by African art, European religious art, and his own exotic tastes. Through his work, Paul is trying to highlight how the world can be peaceful and scary at the same time. A special thank you goes out to Sebastien Greppo who pulls double duty this week. On most weeks, Sebastien kindly handles all things social media for The Lydian Spin. This week, he also lends a hand translating back and forth between French and English so that Paul, Lydia and Tim can talk. Happy Easter!

Apr 2

44 min 12 sec

Adele Bertei is a multi-disciplinary artist —poet, writer, actor, performer, singer, songwriter, and filmmaker. She was an original member of New York incendiaries, the Contortions, while working as personal assistant to Brian Eno. Adele has appeared in several indie films, most notably Lizzie Borden’s Born in Flames, and MoMA has acquired two films featuring Adele in lead roles. Her all girl punk-funk band The Bloods was the first out band of queer women. She has toured with, provided backing vocals, and written songs for Tears for Fears, Thomas Dolby, Sandra Bernhard, Culture Club, Scritti Politti, Whitney Houston, Sophie B. Hawkins, Jamaaladeen Tacuma, Sheena Easton, Oleta Adams, Lydia Lunch, and the Pointer Sisters. Adele’s work as a vocalist includes her duet with Thomas Dolby on international hit “Hyperactive!” and the lead on Jellybean’s dance/pop hit “Just a Mirage”.  Opening for writers Kathy Acker and Allen Ginsberg among others in the late 1970s, Adele's stories and essays appear in compilations The New Fuck You: Adventures in Lesbian Reading, edited by Eileen Myles, and Women Who Rock, edited by Evelyn McDonnell. Her first memoir Peter and the Wolves was released in 2020 on Smog Veil Books, and Why Labelle Matters, a book of hymnals to the band who gave the world "Lady Marmalade". The book was released on March 23, 2021 and is now available from the University of Texas Press.

Mar 26

1 hr 20 min

Rich Keller is a four time Grammy Award nominated engineer and producer. Rich earned twenty nine platinum albums. These records have sold seventy five million albums to date. Artists Rich has worked with include Nipsey Hussle, DMX, Nas, Jay Z, Alicia Keys, Puff Daddy, Swizz Beatz, Notorious BIG, Lil Wayne, Mariah Carey, Method Man, Jada Kiss, Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown, Rick Ross, and Ja Rule.  Rich’s started his career in hip hop since 1992, thus he has earned official “OG” status. Rich attended North Texas State University and the City College of New York where he studied jazz bass with legendary bassist Ron Carter. He also happens to be one of the first people Tim met when he moved to New York.

Mar 19

1 hr 12 min

Gary Lippman received a law degree from Northwestern University and has worked with New York’s Innocence Project.  Gary’s play Paradox Lust ran off-off-Broadway in 2001 and his writing has been published in such notable publications as The New York Times, The Paris Review, and VICE, while his visual art can be seen at  Having lived in Illinois, Florida, California, and France, Lippman can now be found in what used to be called “Fun City” with his Hungarian wife Vera. Gary Lippman received a law degree from Northwestern University and has worked with New York’s Innocence Project.  Gary’s play Paradox Lust ran off-off-Broadway in 2001 and his writing has been published in such notable publications as The New York Times, The Paris Review, and VICE, while his visual art can be seen at  Having lived in Illinois, Florida, California, and France, Lippman can now be found in what used to be called “Fun City” with his Hungarian wife Vera. Check out Gary's latest novel Set The Controls For The Heart Of Sharon Tate. 

Mar 12

1 hr 28 min

Tanya Pearson is a Public Historian and Director of the Women of Rock Oral History Project, a collection of digital interviews and written transcripts documenting the lives and careers of women-identified rock musicians. A documentary film based on the project is currently in production. Why Marianne Faithfull Matters, Tanya's contribution to the University of Texas Press’ Music Matters Series, will be published in July, 2021. Her work has appeared in The Washington Post, Bust Magazine, Memoir Mixtapes, and some blogs, and journals. Tanya is a staunch proponent of lesbianism, aging, not eating animals, senior dog adoption, punk rock, and Judy Garland. When she's not working she enjoys writing, rock climbing, playing in her band Feminine Aggression, and watching The Golden Girls with her dogs, Samuel and Andrew. Follow Women Of Rock Oral History Project on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Immediately following this week's the interview, Tanya reads an excerpt from chapter 2 of her upcoming book. The piece is titled Trauma is a Gateway Drug.

Mar 5

1 hr 24 min

Karen Fiorito is a vegan artist and activist residing in California. Her artwork has been exhibited internationally and featured in major publications such as Art in America, Hyperallergic, Art Forum and ArtNews. She has also been featured in such books as American Women Artists in Wartime, Paper Politics: Socially Engaged Printmaking Today and The Design of Dissent. Fiorito has received grants from Change, Inc., the Puffin Foundation, the Pollination Project, A Well Fed World and LUSH Cosmetics for her public art projects. Her current public billboard project, Got Drought? has been touring the United States since 2015. She is also noted for her controversial Trumpocalypse billboard in downtown Phoenix, which gained international media attention.

Feb 26

1 hr 12 min

Jarboe is a singer-songwriter multi instrumentalist and painter, who came to prominence as a member of the band Swans. She was born in Mississippi, and raised in New Orleans, Which along with her FBI father helped define her early musical ideas. The Swans first album, Filth (1983) mesmerized Jarboe, and as a result, she sought out Swans founder Michael Gira. Jarboe joined as a vocalist and keyboardist and debuted on the 1986 album Greed. Jarboe left Swans in 1997 and embarked on a solo career, releasing records including Sacrificial Cake and Anhedoniac. She has continued to self-release solo albums and, in 2012 recorded vocals for two tracks on the Swans' album, The Seer. Like most performers, Jarboe's last tour was cancelled, but she continues to captivate her audience with her recordings and paintings.

Feb 19

1 hr 12 min

Joseph Keckler is an operatic bass-baritone. He gained notoriety for his performance pieces, concerts, and music videos. One notable piece, Shroom Trip Opera, which is the true story of a bad trip he once has had was dubbed by Indiewire as a "classic". Sarah Silverman described it as "mind blowing". He has performed at Lincoln Center, Adult Swim Festival, and the Centre Pompidou. Check out Joseph's collection of essays: Dragon at the Edge of a Flat World(2017). Currently Joseph is an artist in residence at The Ringling Museum of Art. For your listening pleasure, two of Joseph's performances are included in the episode. The first is his cover of a Screaming Jay Hawkins  I Put a Spell on You, and the second Apocalypse is his own song.

Feb 5

1 hr 13 min

Twenty years ago San Francisco author Laura Albert began to write novels using the literary persona JT Leroy. JT was a West Virginian transvestite prostitute, who applied his trade in and around Appalachian truck stops. At thirteen he was a junkie and a cutter. By nineteen, he had moved to San Francisco and started to write. JT's identity came from Laura's own need to create a persona through which she would able to confront and write about the sexual and physical abuse, she  herself had experienced as a girl. In 2000, Laura as JT LeRoy published the novel, Sarah. The book was a sensation. The New York Times Book Review called the book "deft and imaginative". Success meant that there was a massive audience that wanted to meet JT. Laura met this demand as it she puts it "for Harry Potter to come alive" by recruiting her then sister-in-law to play the part of JT. Laura adopted a Cockney accent and played the role of JT's agent and assistant.  Laura's ruse transformed JT Leroy from noted novelist to an A list celebrity. Hollywood came calling. Actress Asia Argento bought the rights to the LeRoy novel The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things and made the book into a film. In 2006, the inevitable happened, JT Leroy was accused of being a hoax. The New York Times published the article Unmasking of JT LeRoy: In Public, He's a She. The article fueled by misguided anger framed Laura's work as a con and avoided any meditation on the reasons why Laura did what she did.  Unsurprisingly, the rest of the media followed suit and piled onto the JT Leroy as greatest literary hoax theme and in doing so, missed the opportunity to dig deeper into the role of identity in art and the sheer inventiveness of what Laura had done. Overtime the media frenzy disappeared, but the global audience for the JT Leroy books did not.  Fans of the books continue to be moved and respond to the stories because of what Laura calls "the felt authenticity" in the work.  Laura is still writing.  Check out the new Sarah & The Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things audiobooks narrated by a series of narrators including Shirley Manson and past Lydian Spin guest Michael Imperioli. Two excerpts from the audio book are included in the episode.

Jan 29

1 hr 26 min

Mark Hosler is a founding member of the audio-visual collage group Negativland. Their newest album is called The World Will Decide. Mixing original materials and original music with things taken from  mass culture and the world around them, Negativland creates surreal rearrangements that say and suggest things that the pieces never originally intended. In doing this kind of cultural archaeology and "culture jamming" (a term they coined way back in 1984), Negativland have been sued twice for copyright infringement. After being sued, by the band U2, Negativland became more publicly involved in advocating significant reforms of copyright laws. Mark even found himself in Washington DC on Capitol Hill as a citizen lobbyist for copyright and art issues. All of their art and media interventions have intended to pose both serious and silly questions about the nature of sound, media, control, ownership, propaganda, power, and perception in the United States of America. 

Jan 22

1 hr 8 min

Pat Loud along with the rest of her family helped invent reality television. The Loud family was the subject of the PBS program An American Family. Created by producer Craig Gilbert, the show was a sensation when it aired in 1973. Pat and her then-husband, Bill Loud, allowed a camera crew to film their family of five over seven months in 1971. The purported intention of the show was to chronicle a typical American family, but instead ended up showing the separation and divorce of Bill and Pat. The show is also credited as having televisions first openly gay character. Son Lance's coming-out was one of the main subjects of the show.  Pat passed away on January 11th.  According to her obituary in the New York Times, critics at the time called her a materialistic "self-absorbed  affluent zombie”.  However, unlike Kris Kardashian, Pat was the farthest thing from a vacuous cash fiend.  Pat was kind, loved her family unconditionally, and was wildly creative. After American Family had aired, and she completed her divorce from her husband she moved with her children to New York.  She found work with Ron Bernstein as a literary agent, and later worked with fashion designer Rudi Gernreich.   In the late 1990s, Pat moved back to California to care for her son Lance who was sick with H.I.V. . She also reunited with her husband Bill, which was one of Lance's final wishes. Pat was 95 when Tim and Lydia went to visit her. She was joined by her son Lance's best friend and Mumps band mate Kristian Hoffman.

Jan 15

49 min 33 sec

Ricky Powell captured some of the wildest moments in New York fashion, music, and art with his portraits of the downtown New York scene of the 80s and 90s. He befriended the Beastie Boys and joined the band on tour as part of their entourage. In this episode he tells the story of his epic journey to join the Beastie Boys who were on tour with Run DMC in St. Petersburg, Florida. Planes, Forties, and Pick up Trucks. If the Tribeca Film festival would have happened last year, one of the films that would have premiered would have been the documentary The Individualist, which through testimonies from those were on the other side of Ricky’s camera—including Natasha Lyonne, Debi Mazar, Mike D, Laurence Fishburne, Chuck D, and LL Cool J—tells the story of Ricky's rise, then fall, then rise again.

Jan 8

1 hr 20 min

Lydia and Tim ring in the New Year and say good riddance to 2020 with friends, Donita Sparks,  Eugene Robinson, Weasel Walter, Kid Congo Powers, Carla Rhodes,David Yow, Zoe Hansen, Lori Barbero, andRon Athey. Happy 2021!

Dec 2020

1 hr 21 min

Happy Covid Christmas! To help get you through this wonderful time of the year, Lydia and Tim talk Christmas and listen to and chat music. For your enjoyment artists discussed include: traditional Inuit Music  Betty Davis Phil Collins Mars Volta New Order Koko Taylor & Willy Dixon Charles Ives Rowland S. Howard Ying Yang Twins Soccer Mommy For a special stocking stuffer, checkout Lydia and Weasel Walter's cover of Black Sabbath's War Pigs.  

Dec 2020

1 hr 7 min

Matt Korvette spent his youth in Nazareth Pennsylvania trick to treating at the Andretti family(race car fame) compound. Then when he got older, he headed off to Keith Haring's hometown of Kutztown to attend college. For the past 16 or so years Matt has been the front man of the Philadelphia band Pissed Jeans, where, as Vice puts it he has been "howling about the absurdities of modern life such as office-supply deliveries and joggers". Pissed Jeans 2017 Album Why Love Now was produced by Lydia and released on SubPop.

Dec 2020

1 hr 12 min