Roar Like The Lamb

Paola and Fr. Sam

A Catholic lay woman and a Catholic priest working together in parish ministry unpack the complexities, joys, and challenges of daily life and how the beauty of the Gospel can bring Jesus, the Lion of Judah, the Lamb of God, into our world. Paola Peña is a youth minister and former FOCUS missionary living out the call to evangelize in parish life. Fr. Sam Kachuba is a priest of the Diocese of Bridgeport and pastor of St. Pius X Church in Fairfield, CT. Roar Like the Lamb is an excuse for them to talk about how much they love ministry and want to share the Catholic faith with everyone.

All Episodes

From all of us at Roar Like the Lamb, Happy Thanksgiving!

Nov 25

32 min 37 sec

Paola's been counting her years in youth ministry and wondering how six years can fly by so quickly.  So here's our look at how it's possible for time to pass, why we don't get more retrospective (and why we should change that), how ministry impacts our lives, and good ways for us to grow in holiness and grace as we carry out the work before us. All that, plus some points from Joel Stepanek. If you're really interested in some ministerial leadership tips, check out his webinar.  You cant watch the podcast if hearing our voices isn't enough for you.

Nov 18

52 min 12 sec

Today we talk about some of the lessons about spiritual direction Paola has been learning in her class. The role of a spiritual director is to help guide you in your spiritual journey. Sometimes that just means being a good listener, sometimes it means challenging someone to do better, to step into the challenges, and spiritual direction always means praying with and for someone.  1 Cor. 3:6-9 And sometimes you wish spiritual direction would look more like this.

Nov 11

47 min 28 sec

We really hope the phrase "10 Minute Topics" is not trademarked. Whatever, we won't be giving 10 actual minutes to each topic, some might get more, some might get less. Let's see what happens. Instability, identity theft, getting locked out of the Paola's life a romcom? Music transcends so many aspects of life and forms in us a place for spirituality. Which leads us to Stephen White's article about virtue and saints. Luke 13:1-9 1 Cor. 2:6 New projects, dream projects and getting started on new things. Some celebrities and Fr. Sam's father are used as examples. Watch the video here.

Nov 4

1 hr 3 min

We are all over the place in this one. Everything from Yetis to self-help, to recognizing our sinfulness, to Duke barking in the background, and eventually the relative ethics of time travel and superheroes, Marvel movies, and saints. This one was a lot of fun. Not really sure what it was about, but this was a good time. Thanks for listening. Check out the video here. And here you get to see Bobby Knight throw a chair. How Arrested Development Taught Me to Read The Scriptures

Oct 28

53 min 22 sec

We learned some new things about our genetics (and Duke's!) this week. But more importantly, we dive into some of the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius without ever actually quoting from them. The exercises are a powerful way to make progress in the spiritual life, find healing, and make lasting life-changes in favor of virtue and in favor of a Christ-centered life.    More on the Spiritual Exercises of St. Ignatius    Here's a great place to go to make a retreat according to the Ignatian method: St. Joseph Retreat House    The Monastic Community of Bethlehem, of the Assumption of the Virgin, and of St. Bruno, where Fr. Sam likes to go on retreat.

Oct 15

44 min 1 sec

One of our shortest episodes ever, we're talking about prayer and degrees of separation from Ken Burns. Prayer, whether rote or spontaneous is so important, and the more prayer takes root in our life and heart, the more that foundation supports us in time of need. Special shout out to Sr. Laura Marie Meskill, RSM, who is Fr. Sam's great-aunt and just celebrated 75 years of religious life! In your charity, say a prayer for her!

Oct 7

25 min 1 sec

So often we hear that the Church has too many rules. But what if we understood why rules and laws exist? What if we saw obligation as something more than a burden? What if the law united us, both as a community and with God? That's the whole point!    Show notes   Check out the Canon Law Made Easy blog  A multi-part podcast that dives into the Church's approach to law

Sep 30

1 hr

We're joined by real-life college student and Fairfield Life Teen alumna Caroline Taylor. She's a pretty amazing woman of faith who has experienced the challenge of going away to college and struggling to live the Catholic faith. On campus, Caroline discovered a newfound appreciation for her relationship with God. Listen in for her phenomenal testimony!   Get more about living your faith on campus!

Sep 23

44 min 36 sec

Weird dreams and Spanish radio. Incredible highlighters that don't destroy your books. Inspiration from the Holy Spirit to speak the Gospel. All this and more in this week's Roar Like the Lamb. Check out the links for some of the references we made in this episode,  and most of all, don't be afraid to get close to Jesus and invite others to do the same!   Steve Harvey Introduces Jesus Youth Pastor Decides to get onions   

Sep 16

35 min 13 sec

Besides a breakdown of Fr. Sam's fishing trip, we're talking about the desire for communion present in the human heart and all its different manifestations. We want Communion - the Eucharist. We want communion - to share the unity of faith in the power of the Holy Spirit. We want communion - to be part of a community. And yes, the brilliant podcasters over at Catching Foxes did in fact talk about this recently and you should listen to their take, too.  Romans 12

Sep 10

54 min 53 sec

While Fr. Sam is away fly fishing in Montana, join Paola as she interviews Liam and Nora Finneran about their summer of encounter with God. Liam and Nora are part of Student Ministry here at St. Pius X and participated in their first summer trips with Damascus and Catholic Heart Workcamp.  Learn more about  Damascus Camp: Catholic Heartwork Camp:  Student Ministry at St. Pius X:

Aug 26

32 min 25 sec

So exciting to have Renzo and Monica Ortega on the podcast this week! They are an amazing married couple, parents to five kids, youth ministers, coaches, bloggers, authors, and so much more. They established Two Become Family to share some of their story of Catholic marriage and parenting. You can find them on social media @twobecomefamily.  If that's not enough, Renzo recently published "Go to Joseph: 10 Day Preparation for Consecration to St. Joseph" and you can find it on Amazon! Finally, Renzo and Monica were asked to be part of a special new series put out by the Knights of Columbus that will air on ABC affiliates nationwide beginning Oct. 10, 2021. Watch the entire conversation here. All the links for this episode: Knights of Columbus special: Renzo's book:

Aug 19

1 hr 11 min

Paola's running from the police, and Fr. Sam is watching the Olympics. Let's talk about the spiritual lessons of the Olympic Games and the teaching of St. Paul.

Aug 12

46 min 9 sec

Heaven is for real, but how often do we think of it? Do we contemplate our eternity? In this episode, we talk about what heaven is, what our we hope eternity to look like, our misunderstandings about the afterlife, and the confidence we have in Christ for the gift of eternal life. Check out this great talk by Sr. Josephine Garrett, that was part of the inspiration for this episode! You might also enjoy Francis Thompson's poem "The Hound of Heaven." Check out this episode on YouTube: 

Aug 5

51 min 4 sec

On July 16, Pope Francis issued the motu proprio Traditionis Custodes, which limits the use of the 1962 Roman Missal. The accompanying letter explains some of his reasoning. With due respect and deference to His Holiness' office, the letter and the document itself are disappointing. We talk about it and how we can respond well. Check out our conversation on YouTube: 

Jul 29

54 min 37 sec

We need hobbies, we need recreation. But how often do we really find that restorative time that rebuilds us? In carrying out ministry, we need to keep time for prayer and the Lord as a priority. Leisure time needs to be true leisure. Take advantage of summer and examine your own life - this is a perfect time to recognize where we're weak, where we're strong, and how God can work in our hearts to call us to something greater. Leisure the Basis of Culture by Josef Pieper is a classic examination of how leisure is best used and it's theological/philosophical purpose. Check us out on YouTube:

Jul 23

37 min 33 sec

After a week at Catholic Heart Workcamp, Paola and Fr. Sam reflect on lessons learned, and a refreshed awareness of the challenges facing young people especially going into a post-covid world. The trip was great (in spite of Fr. Sam having bus insomnia and taken the easy way out by flying home on the return leg), and the teens had an amazing week of service and spiritual growth.  After a year with lots of isolation, our teens inspired by their example, and gave us a lot to think about. Check us out on YouTube: 

Jul 15

34 min 10 sec

Paola is back from Spiritual Director training with FOCUS and the Life Teen national youth ministry convention! In the first half, we talk about lessons learned about spiritual direction and the need for good formation. In the second half, we'll talk about the beauty of youth ministry and Fr. Sam's fool-proof defense against poolside pick-up lines. Check out the great work done by the Fellowship of Catholic University Students and Life Teen!

Jul 8

54 min 38 sec

One of the biggest influences in Fr. Sam's faith journey is a man named Sean Forrest. Sean was the youth minister at St. James in Stratford, CT, where he introduced young people to Jesus in a powerful way. From there, the Lord took him to performing music and speaking on a national level. Sean has recorded and published, and several years ago, founded Haiti 180, an incredible orphanage, school, medical clinic, and charitable outreach to people in need.  Check out Sean's work with Haiti 180 at For more on Sean and his ministry, visit Check out the video of this conversation at 

Jul 1

1 hr

Samantha Kelley is a former Division 1 soccer player for UConn. After college she worked with student athletes for five years through FOCUS and Varsity Catholic. She currently holds a Masters in Catholic Psychology from Divine Mercy University and is pursuing Theology of the Body teaching Certification through the Theology of the Body Institute. Samantha speaks nationally on topics of Sport, Femininity, Theology of the Body, Prayer, and any other topics that fit within the mission of FIERCE Athlete, Inc. While Paola is away, Sam was conned by Fr. Sam into recording an episode of Roar Like the Lamb. She's a great person, incredibly talented, and is doing great things to minister to women.  Please have a look at the great work done by FIERCE Athlete at Check out the podcast and social media offerings!  Check out the video of this episode:

Jun 24

40 min 54 sec

This one is low on content, high on shenanigans. That's why it's a bonus episode. We’re making this one up as we go and learning how to be wrong while still trying to be right. And even there, you better believe we’re finding spiritual lessons. Also, summer plans discussed.  Show notes: The House just voted to make pizza Connecticut’s state food (update: the bill died before the expiration of the legislative session, and there was wailing and grinding of teeth)  Catholic HEART Workcamp is a great service organization providing opportunities for Catholic youth to put their faith in action each summer, and we’re thrilled to be able to work with them each year

Jun 21

46 min 32 sec

Description: In this special audio-only episode of Roar Like the Lamb, Paola is in the hot seat answering questions about evangelization and being a missionary. She and Fr. Sam discuss the best approach to sharing the Gospel and the different ways lay people and priests can be in mission to the world. Show notes: If you don’t already know about the Fellowship of Catholic University Students, please do yourself a favor and visit We talk about 2 Timothy 2, but the verse Paola was searching for was 1 Thessalonians 2:8: “With such affection for you, we determined to share with you not only the Gospel of God, but also our very selves, so dearly beloved had you become to us.

Jun 17

49 min 32 sec

Description: How heavy is a cloud? Paola knows! And the leadership lessons we can learn from Joseph (the Old Testament Joseph) and from suffering, and how to start leading others in service. Show notes:  (Book) The Catholic Vision for Leading Like Jesus: Introducing S3 Leadership -- Servant, Steward, Shepherd by Owen Phelps

Jun 10

40 min 25 sec

Description: We know the world needs mercy, that we need mercy. But how do we become instruments of mercy – how do we bring mercy to the world? Forgiveness is hard, and necessary, and possible! *SPOILER* Paola probably cries a little Show notes: For an amazing testimony of forgiveness, watch this: From the John Paul II Healing Center, prayerful steps for forgiveness Ask the Holy Spirit to show you who you need to forgive (family, friend, abuser, God, yourself). Picture the person in front of you and pay attention to what you feel. Make an account of the debt they ow you (what did they take from you, how did they hurt you? It is OK to feel angry). Imagine yourself telling them what they did to hurt you and how it has affected you. Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you what you believe about yourself based on that incident (identity lie). Renounce the identity lie. (For example: “I renounce the lie that I am not loved or cared for”) Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal the judgments you hold towards that person who hurt you. Renounce the judgements (see prayer above). Renounce inner vows (see prayer above). Ask Jesus to forgive the person. Forgive the person. Pray a prayer of blessing over that person – ask God to bless them in the opposite way that they hurt you. Ask Jesus to seal this forgiveness and heal the wounds. Thank God for his healing.

Jun 3

1 hr

The world’s need for mercy is reflected in our own, personal need for forgiveness. Dealing with the reality of our sin and God’s desire to forgive us will change the world. Fr Sam’s beard is for sale. Show notes:  Beard Fundraiser Link: Isaiah 43:1-7 1 But now thus says the Lord, he who created you, O Jacob, he who formed you, O Israel: “Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by name, you are mine. 2 When you pass through the waters I will be with you; and through the rivers, they shall not overwhelm you; when you walk through fire you shall not be burned, and the flame shall not consume you. 3 For I am the Lord your God, the Holy One of Israel, your Savior. I give Egypt as your ransom, Ethiopia and Seba in exchange for you. 4 Because you are precious in my eyes, and honored, and I love you, I give men in return for you, peoples in exchange for your life. 5 Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, and from the west I will gather you; 6 I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth, 7 every one who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made.”

May 27

40 min 30 sec

Probably a multi-part episode, we’re looking at the landscape of a world that is deeply divided and suffering. For example, we experience some division on the pronunciation of the word “pusillanimity.” We get over it. The late Francis Cardinal George once wrote: “In the United States, everything is permitted, even encouraged. … But, while practically everything might be permitted, practically nothing is forgiven. By contrast, in the Church much is not permitted. … But while much is not permitted, everything can be forgiven. Our culture pulls us towards vengeance, our faith towards mercy.” The lack of mercy in the world doesn’t have to be permanent. Our faith teaches us to bring mercy into the world, to bring forgiveness and healing. And speaking of healing, listen to how Paola fixed a toilet. Mercy, Lord, sweet mercy! Show notes: Check out the good work of the John Paul II Healing Center: St. Josephine Bakhita is an amazing example of forgiveness and healing, one who not only showed mercy to those who sinned against her, but also became an instrument of God’s mercy for so many people. The movie about her life is a powerful watch!

May 15

57 min 25 sec

Do you think it’s possible to connect coffee beans extracted from cat poop to reflections on Holy Week? SPOILER ALERT: it’s not. But we try anyway. Holy Week is great and it gives us that necessary reset to put our lives back in proper order so that we can enter more deeply into a relationship with God. Show notes: Cat poop coffee comes from the civet, and is properly called Kopi Luwak. We are willing to try it. Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi is a Latin phrase meaning “The law of faith is the law of belief is the law lived.” The way we pray profoundly influences what we believe, and our belief in turn, teaches us how we are to live.

Mar 31

50 min 28 sec

Fr. Sam provides definitive Biblical and theological proof that Paola is wrong about cats, and dogs are superior. Also, a robust discussion of the reality that effective ministry can't be done alone. God is at work in the Church! We all can play a role in the Church's mission and ministry. The harvest is abundant but the laborers are few. Pray for vocations to the priesthood and religious life, pray for faithful people willing to share their gifts and talents for the sake of the good work of the Gospel, pray to know your own gifts so they can be shared!

Mar 26

51 min 36 sec

Sharing the Gospel is difficult, but often most difficult within the Church. In certain situations, talking about Jesus is easy - someone's never heard of Jesus, someone expresses an interest in the Gospel, you have nothing to lose by talking. But sometimes it's a lot harder - what if this congregation doesn't like what I say and writes to the Bishop? What if people aren't receptive and won't come back to our ministries? In this episode, we wrestle with the challenges and joys of preaching the Gospel.

Mar 26

1 hr 13 min

Episode Description: Paola skipped her reading assignment! Ha! But this year of St. Joseph that Pope Francis has called is exciting and we’re going to look at his apostolic letter Patris Corde, and open up some of the 5…or 7…characteristics of St. Joseph that are important for this year. In this year, let us go to Joseph (Ite ad Ioseph) and find in him a model of Christian living. Show notes: “Ite ad Ioseph” is pronounced “EE-tay ahd YO-sehf” Check out Pope Francis’ letter Patris Corde,

Mar 25

38 min 48 sec

Episode Description: Paola got “peace” as her word of the year. Now Fr Sam shares his word, “freedom.” There’s discussion of the teaching office of the Church, the risks of mansplaining, why clericalism is just the absence of spiritual fatherhood, and how the spirit of freedom that comes from Christ gives us everything we need to be witnesses of the Gospel. Show Notes: Paola sneezed, but she does not have covid. Everything is OK. The three “munera” or “office/duty” of the priest are the “munus docendi” - the teaching office; the “munus regendi” - the kingly/ruling office; the “munus sanctificandi” - the sanctifying office. Romans 8:14-17: “For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the spirit of sonship. When we cry, "Abba! Father!" it is the Spirit himself bearing witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him.”

Mar 25

1 hr 1 min

Paola hikes with llamas. Fr. Sam likes Cheerios. In this episode, we explore the need for and dangers of competition in a Catholic ministry setting. Is being competitive antithetical to good ministry? Show Notes: the Litany of Humility O Jesus, meek and humble of heart, Hear me. From the desire of being esteemed, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being loved, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being extolled, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being honored, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being praised, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being preferred to others, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being consulted, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the desire of being approved, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being humiliated, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being despised, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of suffering rebukes, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being calumniated, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being forgotten, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being ridiculed, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being wronged, Deliver me, O Jesus. From the fear of being suspected, Deliver me, O Jesus. That others may be loved more than I, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it. That others may be esteemed more than I, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it. That, in the opinion of the world, others may increase and I may decrease, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it. That others may be chosen and I set aside, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it. That others may be praised and I go unnoticed, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it. That others may be preferred to me in everything, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it. That others may become holier than I, provided that I may become as holy as I should, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

Feb 22

1 hr 8 min

With no preparation and no idea what the topic is, Paola and Fr. Sam sit down to record. Spoiler alert. Paola cries. But it’s the best kind because it’s about the way God is moving powerfully in the hearts of people. So listen in and find out how the Lord worked through SEEK21 and in other ways to transform hearts and lives. Show notes: From St. Teresa of Avila Christ has no body but yours, No hands, no feet on earth but yours, Yours are the eyes with which He looks Compassion on this world, Yours are the feet with which He walks to do good, Yours are the hands, with which He blesses all the world. Yours are the hands, yours are the feet, Yours are the eyes, you are His body. Christ has no body now but yours, No hands, no feet on earth but yours, Yours are the eyes with which he looks compassion on this world. Christ has no body now on earth but yours.

Feb 14

1 hr 13 min

Few things in life are as challenging as conflict and correction, whether you are the one who has to do the correcting or the one being corrected. But the Christian life demands a willingness, in charity, to call our brothers and sisters in faith to greater virtue and holiness. Show Notes:  For some self-reflection check out: Litany of Fraternal Correction by Clare McCallan If for some reason you’re not already listening to the #1 podcast out there, do yourself a favor and subscribe to “The Bible in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz)” We reference “Crucial Conversations” a great book that helps you learn how to address conflicts head-on while maintaining interpersonal and personal peace. Check it out: Crucial Conversations Tools for Talking When Stakes Are High, Second Edition

Jan 26

54 min 1 sec

Paola and Father Sam celebrate a milestone with due solemnity and joy, while looking at a world that seems totally thrown into chaos and confusion. How ought a Catholic respond to such craziness while maintaining sanity and sanctity? Show notes: St. Bernard of Clairvaux’s four degrees of love can be found in a longer treatise called “On Loving God.” You can read the whole thing here:

Jan 22

50 min 38 sec

Fr. Sam talks about rejection in evangelization and Paola tells him how to deal with it all and still be a successful missionary. If you're trying to share the faith with people and hitting challenges along the way, we're here for you. Show Notes: "Making Missionary Disciples" by Curtis Martin If you like Thai food, please check out Ruuthai's Kitchen. They're amazing. Movie recommendation: For Greater Glory - awesome film about the Cristero war in Mexico and the witness of Catholics in the face of serious state persecution

Jan 5

48 min 11 sec

Cliches, aphorisms, truisms, and platitudes are all part of our common speech, and we all cringe a little whenever we hear them. In youth ministry or pastoral care, there is a whole set of them that get used way too much. In this episode, we explore a few of them and confess to using them, to our shame. Show Notes: “Saint John Paul the Great: His Five Loves” by Jason Evert. Paola didn’t know the title to this book even though she’s “reading” it.

Dec 2020

26 min 41 sec

When we worship God, we're brought into relationship with Him. The act of worship is not limited to liturgical action, but can actually be seen in everything we do, in all our moral decisions. In this episode we talk about how following the Commandments help us worship. And how Matt Fradd's Aussie accent makes his podcasts even more wonderful. Show notes:  Servant of God Fulton Sheen’s book “Your Life is Worth Living: 50 Lessons to Deepen Your Faith” Check out Matt Fradd's awesome podcast "Pints With Aquinas" The Community of the Lamb (the Little Sisters and Little Brothers of the Lamb) are an awesome, holy monastic community present in countries all over the world. Here in the US, you’ll find them in Kansas City, KS. One title, two different books: “The Spirit of the Liturgy” – by Romano Guardini, and “The Spirit of the Liturgy”  - by Joseph Ratzinger

Dec 2020

45 min 18 sec

What is worship and what do we value? In this episode, we’ll start looking at the way our act of worship, especially at Mass, connects us to God and to one another. We’ll also see how worship is a fulfillment of God’s law. There will be some liturgical nerdery at work. Show Notes: Check out the Servant of God Fulton Sheen’s book “Your Life is Worth Living: 50 Lessons to Deepen Your Faith” The Community of the Lamb (the Little Sisters and Little Brothers of the Lamb) are an awesome, holy monastic community present in countries all over the world. Here in the US, you’ll find them in Kansas City, KS. One title, two different books: “The Spirit of the Liturgy” – by Romano Guardini, and “The Spirit of the Liturgy”  - by Joseph Ratzinger

Dec 2020

1 hr

We’re really tired. So in this episode we probably won’t stumble over any of our words or forget names or make any exhaustion-related mistakes. But we’ll be talking about being tired, the way exhaustion impacts ministry, and how God works through us even when we have no energy to offer. Check out our only late-night recording and find out why we usually record in daylight! Show notes: The Eisenhower Matrix, also referred to as Urgent-Important Matrix, helps you decide on and prioritize tasks by urgency and importance, sorting out less urgent and important tasks which you should either delegate or not do at all. Check out Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend’s book “Boundaries” - Some of our reading recommendations in this episode:  “Brideshead Revisited” by Evelyn Waugh  “Supreme City: How Jazz Age Manhattan Gave Birth to Modern America” by Donald L. Miller “The End of the Modern World” by Romano Guardini  “The Fire Within” by Thomas Dubay

Dec 2020

45 min 24 sec

Did you know that being quarantined increases your likeliness of starting a podcast by 82.5%? We have no data to back that up, but if it’s not true it should be. In our inaugural episode, we’re talking about the challenges the quarantine has posed to priestly ministry, parish life, working with our youth, and personal spiritual growth, and the blessings that have come out of the pandemic. This podcast is born out of a place of prayer and a desire to deepen community in our church. 

Dec 2020

49 min 45 sec