The Spouse Angle

Natalie Gross

A podcast breaking down the news for military spouses and their families

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The author of "I Move A Lot and That's Okay" shares the story of her military upbringing and the experiences that inspired her to write children's books specifically for military kids dealing with constant change.Follow Shermaine Perry-Knights on Instagram. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Nov 24

29 min 54 sec

A Tricare pilot program is providing military moms with more access to doulas and lactation consultants. Three military spouses who work in this field break down what new moms need to know — and how it could affect the military community long term.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Nov 17

37 min 51 sec

An Air Force veteran who served in Afghanistan shares the story of her service and transition out of the military, as well as what she wants Americans to know on Veterans Day about military families' experiences.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Nov 10

17 min 7 sec

As a Basic Needs Allowance is considered in Congress to combat food insecurity, advocates break down what it could mean for the military's neediest families.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Nov 3

25 min 55 sec

In this month's feature episode, the founder of the Veteran’s Spouse Project shares her story — from acting in New York City to writing plays that showcase the military spouse experience.Follow Veteran Spouse Project on Facebook. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Oct 27

29 min 20 sec

Many military teens struggle with food insecurity and mental health. Yet a large percentage plan to one day don the uniform, a new study shows. Two high school seniors who helped lead the research speak about their tough experiences as military kids and how they're helping other teenagers.Follow Bloom: Empowering the Military Teen on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Oct 20

29 min 38 sec

The military is standardizing the amount of time troops spend at home between deployments. An active-duty Army spouse and a military blogger discuss what this means for families and offer tips to help spouses through deployments and reintegration.Follow Pillar Deployment Retreat on Instagram and Facebook. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Oct 13

31 min 57 sec

About 200,000 service members and their families may be eligible for a temporary increase in monthly housing allowance in areas where available and affordable housing is hard to come by. An Air Force spouse shares her family's struggles to find a home and how to apply for the additional funds.See if your location is on the Defense Department’s list.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Oct 6

18 min 29 sec

After the death of her sister, Air National Guard spouse Laura Obier focused on taking care of her family — barely allowing herself to grieve. Years later, she's now a pageant queen and is using her platform to support and advocate for others who find themselves in similar situations.Connect with Laura Obier on Facebook. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Sep 29

29 min 31 sec

The military's COVID-19 vaccination mandate is stirring controversy. Military spouses share their reactions to the news, and a journalist breaks down the specifics of the mandate, including the consequences for troops who don't comply and possible future implications for families.Follow Scott Maucione on Twitter. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Sep 22

24 min 31 sec

For the first time ever, all spouses of active-duty service members can share their opinions on military life in the Department of Defense's biennial survey. Find out why that's important and what to expect.To take the survey, click here.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Sep 15

20 min 40 sec

A military daughter, spouse and mom shares her memories of Sept. 11, 2001, and the ripple effects it's had on her family in the two decades since — including her own choice to teach in a war zone. Plus, some encouragement for military spouses struggling to process recent events in Afghanistan.Follow Elaine Brye on Facebook. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Sep 8

24 min 48 sec

Former Air Force physician and education expert Dr. Mario Ramirez offers a look at what kids will face as they head back to school this fall — from mask policies to changes in extracurricular activities and shifts in academic focus. Plus, what's known about the COVID-19 delta variant and how it’s affecting school-age kids.Mentioned in this episode:• “Here Are the Names of the 13 U.S. Service Members Killed in Afghanistan Attack,” Marine Corps Times• “10 States Have School Mask Mandates While 8 Forbid Them,” Pew• “America’s Public Schools Are Not Ready for the COVID-19 Vaccination Debate,” The HillFollow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Sep 1

30 min 15 sec

The Paralympics have started, and this week’s episode features retired Army Col. Patty Collins, who competed as a Team USA Paralympics triathlete in Rio de Janeiro in 2016. She offers a behind-the-scenes look at the elite competition and shares her story of healing after trauma and life as an amputee.This episode is sponsored by SpouseLink, a unique space created to help bridge the distance between family and friends that comes with military life. Learn more at SpouseLink.org.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Aug 25

29 min 5 sec

With all eyes on Afghanistan, a combat veteran and a Gold Star spouse share their connections to the country and what it has been like watching the Taliban take over.For a list of resources mentioned in this episode, visit www.thespouseangle.com.This episode is sponsored by SpouseLink, a unique space created to help bridge the distance between family and friends that comes with military life. Learn more at SpouseLink.org.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Aug 18

29 min 37 sec

Many Americans who lost their jobs during the COVID-19 pandemic are pivoting to entrepreneurship or new career fields. Five military spouses share their encouraging stories and tips for success.This episode is sponsored by SpouseLink, a unique space created to help bridge the distance between family and friends that comes with military life. Learn more at SpouseLink.org.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Aug 11

32 min 55 sec

Virginia has now made military families part of a protected class. Two military spouses who have experienced employment discrimination explain the significance of this law and what it could mean for military spouses everywhere.This episode is sponsored by SpouseLink, a unique space created to help bridge the distance between family and friends that comes with military life. Learn more at SpouseLink.org.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and YouTube.

Aug 4

23 min 25 sec

WWE’s Lacey Evans shares how she's reconnecting with her military roots and giving back to the veteran community. Plus, some insight into her celebrity lifestyle and relatable home life.⁣Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jul 30

12 min 20 sec

Military spouse and entertainer Aj Smit uses her creativity to bring joy to people of all ages. In this episode, she shares a behind-the-scenes look at a day in the life of a professional mermaid and also her role in the Red Tent movement, creating safe discussion spaces for both military and civilian women wherever the Air Force takes her. ⁣⁣Follow Aj on Instagram and Facebook. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jul 28

22 min 32 sec

What happens when military PCS season meets America’s hot real estate market? Two industry experts explain the unique challenges facing military home buyers this summer.⁣Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jul 21

31 min 38 sec

Two Marine Corps spouses share their struggles of building community during military life and what's ultimately helped them make lasting friendships.⁣This episode is sponsored by SpouseLink, a unique space created to help bridge the distance between family and friends that comes with military life. ⁣⁣Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jul 14

22 min

⁣A landmark piece of voting legislation, the "For the People Act," didn't make it past the Senate. Yet a military spouse and advocate breaks down why military families should care that it didn't pass — and what's next for their voting rights.⁣Follow the Secure Families Initiative on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jul 7

23 min 15 sec

In 2018 Brian Alvarado was the first same-sex military spouse to receive the Navy Spouse of the Year Award. Now he's using his national platform — including an appearance on "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" — to advocate for military spouses and families. In this episode he also shares how the military's transformation since the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" era has shaped his family's service.⁣Connect with Brian Alvarado on LinkedIn. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jun 30

19 min 45 sec

Implementation of the Defense Department's Tenant Bill of Rights for military families in base housing has hit a few snags, even as more families sue the companies that manage these properties. A Stars and Stripes reporter provides the latest updates.⁣⁣Articles mentioned in this episode include:⁣-Former managers for privatized housing company plead guilty to fraud in doctoring maintenance records, Military Times⁣-These 37 Army bases are providing all privatized housing tenant rights, Military Times⁣-DOD delays final protections for military families in housing tenant bill of rights — again, Stars and Stripes⁣⁣Follow Rose Thayer on Twitter. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jun 23

17 min 13 sec

Help may be on the way for military spouses struggling to find employment or pay for child care, as Congress weighs multiple bills that would impact military families financially.To make your voice heard on the legislation discussed in this episode, contact your elected officials through the Military Officers Association of America via the MOAA Take Action Center or share your story with the National Military Family Association.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jun 16

31 min 14 sec

With PCS season underway, a certified professional organizer and Army spouse gives her top moving tips and other life hacks for military families. Follow Manifesto Home + Office on Instagram and Facebook. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jun 9

15 min 41 sec

Gold Star husband and retired Green Beret Joe Kent reflects on the life of his late wife, who was killed on a special operations mission fighting ISIS in Syria. Joe is raising the couple's two young sons and shares how he's preserving Shannon Kent's legacy as a mother and a warrior.Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

May 26

30 min 19 sec

May is the Month of the Military Caregiver. In this episode, military spouse Amy Bushatz and her two sons share what it's like being caregivers for their soldier, who has PTSD and a traumatic brain injury.Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

May 19

34 min 24 sec

A Gold Star spouse discovered her late husband's photo was being used in online romance scams. Now, she's part of a new campaign to educate about a rise in cybercrimes impacting service members, veterans and their families at disproportionate rates.Follow the Cybercrime Support Network on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter, and visit FightCybercrime.org to learn more. Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

May 12

27 min

As U.S. troops prepare to leave Afghanistan, an Army spouse shares her perspective on a country she's come to know and love through her husband's many deployments and the toll the war there has taken on her life.Follow Rebekah Sanderlin on Twitter. Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

May 5

25 min

Army spouse Marla Bautista shares her personal story of abuse, incarceration and homelessness as a young adult and how those experiences inspired her family's nonprofit helping the homeless community wherever the military takes them.Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Apr 28

32 min 34 sec

First Lady Jill Biden is tackling military kids’ education as part of the White House Joining Forces Initiative. In this episode, a military kid shares her experiences moving from school to school, and a military child education leader shares what families can expect from the program.Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Apr 21

20 min 19 sec

A new Military Spouse Chamber of Commerce offers multiple resources for entrepreneurs and, for the first time, the chance to be federally recognized as a military spouse-owned business. Two Army spouses working on this project provide all the details.Follow the Military Spouse Chamber of Commerce on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter. Follow the Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Apr 14

19 min 41 sec

The latest results of the annual Blue Star Families Military Lifestyle Survey are in. Hear how much the coronavirus pandemic has impacted military families and which challenges still remain consistent – COVID-19 or not.Find out more about the survey at https://bluestarfam.org/survey-2/.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Apr 7

26 min 48 sec

On this month's feature episode, attorney and business coach Rachel Brenke shares how a cancer diagnosis launched her into entrepreneurship and how she's maintained success throughout the hard times of military life and the COVID-19 pandemic.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Mar 31

21 min 52 sec

Many military families are struggling to put food on the table, research shows. An Army spouse discusses what it’s like dealing with food insecurity and the resources that have helped her family, and a military spouse near Joint Base Lewis-McChord shares how she's growing food to give away to families in need.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Mar 24

25 min 42 sec

More states are passing laws to make it easier for military spouses to transfer professional licenses after a move. A lawyer and a teacher share some of the barriers they’ve faced when having to transfer their careers after a PCS.For more information on state license recognition laws mentioned in this episode, click here.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Mar 17

31 min 37 sec

The military offers dedicated resources for families with special medical and educational needs. Yet according to a new survey, many families don't know about it.Learn more about Partners in PROMISE on Facebook and at promiseact.org. Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Mar 10

33 min 1 sec

A financial expert who works with military families shares his top tips and practical advice for building financial security — especially during hard times.This episode is sponsored by First Command. To learn more about the services the company provides to military families, visit firstcommand.com.

Mar 8

23 min 12 sec

A leading military nonprofit has launched an initiative to better understand and support the experiences of minority families. Two spouses working behind the scenes on the project share more about it and what their own experiences have been like as women of color in the military community.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Mar 3

24 min 39 sec

The four women of the Copeland-Haynes family have all graduated from or are currently attending West Point. To close out Black History Month, Army Col. June Copeland and her daughters share how they all ended up at the United States Military Academy, the challenges they’ve faced as black women in military service and the bond they have from going through it all together.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Feb 24

37 min 4 sec

New research sheds light on the way unemployment can affect the mental health of military spouses and their families. In this episode, two spouses share their struggles and how they finally found work success.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Feb 17

30 min 19 sec

A recent gaffe by the president's press secretary has put the Space Force back in the spotlight. Two Guardian spouses share what it's like to be part of the newest branch of the military — one that many people don't understand.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Feb 10

27 min 59 sec

To kick off Season 2, Military Times reporters Leo Shane and Karen Jowers join host Natalie Gross to discuss vaccines, troop drawdowns, child care changes, and other news stories military spouses need to know about this year.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Feb 3

31 min 59 sec

The Spouse Angle co-founders share positive news stories from the military community — from a top Army spouse saving someone's life to new on-post work spaces for spouses and how military kids are becoming pen pals with veterans in hospice.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Jan 14

13 min 40 sec

Two inspiring military kids volunteering as Giving Tuesday Military youth ambassadors share how they plan to help spread kindness this holiday season. Then, The Spouse Angle team offers a look back at Season 1 and what's ahead for future episodes.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Oct 2020

25 min 2 sec

The pandemic was already making Army spouse Simone Gorrindo's life more difficult. Then, her husband deployed on short notice. Simone recently wrote about her experiences for the New York Times and joins Natalie on this episode to talk more about what the last few months have been like.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Oct 2020

29 min 5 sec

Are there rules for being involved in politics as a military spouse? Three military spouses provide guidance and talk about their own experiences delving into the political realm.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Oct 2020

25 min 44 sec

The tragic death of Vanessa Guillen led to a bipartisan bill that could transform the way sexual assault is handled in the military. In this episode, a retired Air Force JAG breaks down the legislation, and a Navy veteran and military spouse shares her story of survival and healing after being sexually assaulted.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Sep 2020

25 min 44 sec

Army spouse Daniele Massey shares her take on pandemic schooling from the perspective of a DoDEA virtual teacher and mother of two. Plus, some expert tips for helping military kids succeed in math and remote learning.Follow The Spouse Angle on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Sep 2020

25 min 3 sec