Punk Rock HR

Laurie Ruettimann

Work is broken. We’re here to help fix it. Join host Laurie Ruettimann, the failed HR lady who went on to become one of the world’s top career advisers, as she talks to some of her closest friends and peers about work: the buzzwords, the nerdy, the contrarian. We’ll give you the tools you need to fix work, because if change is going to happen, it’s going to start with you.

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In this episode, I am joined by Dan Schawbel. He’s a New York Times bestselling author and the managing partner of Workplace Intelligence, a research and advisory firm helping HR adapt to trends, drive performance and prepare for the future. Listening to employees and building connections encourages employees and helps them get behind a company’s vision of success. Listen to this episode to hear Dan and I discuss the foundations of trust, and how we can take those lessons into the future.


Sep 27

24 min 22 sec

My guests today are Chas Fields and Teresa Smith. They're part of the HCM Advisory Group at the Workforce Institute at UKG, where they offer insights and advice to corporate HR leaders and business leaders just like you. Today's conversation is all about understanding big data.  If you're on an HR journey and you're asking yourself how big data can be used as a tool for better corporate storytelling or to improve the employee experience, sit back and enjoy this conversation.


Sep 20

18 min 44 sec

My guest today is Dr. Jarik Conrad, vice president of the Human Insights and the HCM Advisory team at UKG. Dr. Conrad is also executive director of the UKG-sponsored Equity At Work Council, an interdisciplinary group of experts and practitioners dedicated to providing evidence-based strategies to eliminate workplace inequities. Dr. Conrad discusses how we can start thinking more holistically about employee wellness and how to better connect employees to answers for their physical and emotional health needs.


Sep 13

20 min 40 sec

This week on Punk Rock HR, Laurie Ruettimann is joined by Dr. Chris Mullen. He's the executive director at The Workforce Institute at UKG. Chris is an experienced leader with a demonstrated history of working in the technology and HR industries. He's highly skilled at the employee experience and leveraging technology, and his PhD research was focused on work-life balance and the use of mobile technology. In the conversation, Chris and Laurie talk about all the good stuff — COVID workforce issues, burnout — but most importantly, they talk about making work better. You’ll want to hear this conversation so you can make work better, too.    Punk Rock HR is proudly sponsored by UKG. They are an award-winning all-in-one HR platform. If you’re curious and want to fix work and do HR better, check out our sponsors at UKG.com.


Sep 6

23 min 23 sec

This summer, I'm reissuing some of my favorite episodes of Punk Rock HR. In this episode, we revisit my conversation with Zach Nunn, a change management consultant and one of the co-founders of the podcast and movement Living Corporate. We discussed all the things that are not normally talked about at work or in diversity, equity and inclusion programs. It’s important to keep the antiracism movement from becoming another cyclical thing and make it a true reconstructive movement.


Aug 30

26 min 2 sec

My guest today is my dear friend Vadim Liberman. He’s the editor at TLNT and ere.net. But Vadim’s on the show today not to get super-nerdy about sourcing or recruiting. Instead, he's here to talk about his mom, who has Alzheimer’s. We speak candidly today about the challenges, the pressures and the stress of being a primary caregiver.  Listen in to hear Vadim and I discuss the joys of caring for the person you love and why handling caregiver stress is so important for everyone involved.


Aug 23

26 min 7 sec

My guest today is Mike Sipple Jr. He’s the co-founder and CEO of the Talent Magnet Institute. The Talent Magnet Institute is a membership community and a consultancy that provides leaders with tools, resources and support to develop a holistic approach to leadership. In today’s conversation, we’re talking about it all: expert talent attraction strategies, executive coaching, mentorship, proactive leadership — all with the goal of moving people and organizations to become a talent magnet.


Aug 16

21 min 41 sec

Child care in the United States had problems before the pandemic, and it feels like it’s only gotten worse. I wanted to know what lessons we’ve learned and how HR departments can continue to move the needle forward. I sat down with Ilnort Rueda of Arvorie to talk about child care for working parents, the accessibility crisis that the pandemic brought to light and what HR departments can do to help fix it.


Aug 9

16 min 18 sec

This summer, I'm reissuing some of my favorite episodes of Punk Rock HR. This one is my interview with Adam Alter, a professor of marketing at the NYU Stern School of Business and author of the book “Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked.” Listen in to hear just how bad our addiction to technology has become over the years and the steps we can take to reclaim our time.


Aug 2

25 min 41 sec

My guest today is Nick Hutchison, the founder of BookThinkers, a business dedicated to helping authors and readers make a connection in the personal development space. If you’re interested in hearing us discuss how to get the most out of personal development books, hearing about what to look for in a great book, as well as advice for authors who are trying to grow their audience, sit back and enjoy this conversation.


Jul 26

21 min 26 sec

This summer, I'm reissuing some of my favorite episodes of Punk Rock HR. Here's a conversation I had in 2019 with Mary Ellen Slayter, the founder and CEO of Rep Cap Media. We chat about why our culture is so obsessed with the side hustle, why it is failing us and solutions for the future of work. This conversation is valuable to revisit as we emerge from the pandemic and you find yourself tempted to take on that fifth side job.


Jul 23

25 min 19 sec

According to my guest this week, Erica Dhawan, it’s just as important to effectively master the art of digital body language as it is to master the other types of nonverbal language. Erica is the author of a tremendously valuable book on this topic, “Digital Body Language: How to Build Trust and Connection, No Matter the Distance.” If you’re leading cross-cultural teams or you’re just trying to avoid mixed messages with friends, you’ll gain important insight about modern communication from this episode.


Jul 19

19 min 45 sec

This summer, I'll be reissuing some of my favorite episodes of Punk Rock HR. Here's a conversation I had in 2019 with Professor Amy Edmondson from Harvard Business School and author of "The Fearless Organization". Our conversation about generating psychological safety, inviting participation and using humor to destigmatize failure is still essential today. If you’re ready to empower your workforce to create and innovate, sit back and learn from Amy Edmondson.


Jul 16

24 min 38 sec

My guest for today is Mike Kim, author of “You Are The Brand: The 8-Step Blueprint to Showcase Your Unique Expertise and Build a Highly Profitable, Personally Fulfilling Business.” Mike’s expertise has always been invaluable, but it’s essential right now, when so many smart and talented people are pivoting in the post-COVID world. If you want to learn how to position your expertise in the most effective way possible, then listen in!


Jul 13

23 min 38 sec

My guest for today is Dr. Amy Dufrane, the CEO of HRCI, the leading certification body for human resources — and she’s also a longtime listener of Punk Rock HR! Amy joined me to talk about on the show today to talk about the future of work, the future of human resources, and all things human capital. If you’re like Amy and me and nerd out over all things HR, this is one you don’t want to miss!


Jul 12

18 min 59 sec

Do you have what it takes to become an entrepreneur? My guest on this week’s episode, Gino Wickman, is here to help you figure that out. He’s the author of the book “Entrepreneurial Leap: Do You Have What It Takes to Become an Entrepreneur?” He makes his point clear: becoming an entrepreneur is rewarding, but it definitely isn’t for everyone. Listen in to hear Gino break down all of the parts that make up a successful self-leader so that you can figure out if becoming an entrepreneur is right for you.


Jul 5

24 min 46 sec

My guest this week, David Buckmaster, has a ton of experience working for corporate compensation teams. He’s a prolific writer and is the author of the new book “Fair Pay: How to Get a Raise, Close the Wage Gap, and Build Stronger Businesses.” Listen in to hear David’s solutions on providing employees with full transparency, the role that negotiation has in fair pay and HR’s role in closing the racial and gender pay gaps once and for all.


Jun 28

28 min 13 sec

My guest today, Dr. Rebecca Heiss, uses her degrees in biology to help people overcome evolutionary limitations that are hardwired in the brain and improve their self-awareness and leadership skills. She’s also an ornithologist, which means that she can tell us what we can learn about this type of human behavior by studying birds. Listen in to discover the methods you can use to rewire your brain and live more positively, and find out how birds fit into all of this.


Jun 21

23 min 33 sec

Do you wonder why it feels like we’re more connected than ever before, yet it feels so difficult to keep true friendships alive? In this episode, I talk to Smiley Poswolsky, author of the book “Friendship in the Age of Loneliness: An Optimist’s Guide to Connection.” We discuss the reasons why we feel so alone despite always being connected with others online, as well as how to show up as our true selves and form authentic connections.


Jun 14

23 min 1 sec

My guest on this episode is Cyril Bouquet. He’s a professor of innovation and strategy at the Switzerland-based IMD Business School and helps executives bring progress to a changing world. He’s also the co-author of “ALIEN Thinking: The Unconventional Path to Breakthrough Ideas.” In our conversation, Cyril discusses how people can come up with truly original ideas and foster creativity, even under stress, by thinking like an ALIEN.


Jun 7

23 min 53 sec

In this episode I’m joined by Dr. Jeffrey McCausland, a retired U.S. Army Colonel and author of the book “Battle Tested!: Gettysburg Leadership Lessons for 21st Century Leaders”. He uses the events in the Battle of Gettysburg to explain how one can be a leader in today’s corporate world. Listen to our conversation about Gettysburg and how it relates to leadership, the need for a succession plan, and the value of succinctly communicating the mission and vision of your organization.


May 31

24 min 54 sec

My guest today is Mitchell Kaplan, who has been a bookseller and owner of the independent Books & Books in the Miami area for almost 40 years. We chat about what it’s like managing a small business during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly with maintaining the community that he’s helped to build in the Miami literary scene. We also talk about keeping employees motivated and how pivoting can help grow your business during challenging times.


May 24

20 min 21 sec

My guest today is New York Times bestselling author Julie Lythcott-Haims. She’s the author of the fantastic new book “Your Turn: How To Be An Adult.” It’s a book about adulting, but it’s also a book about overall character and integrity. She shares how you can show up and live a complete, authentic life — no matter how old you are. If you’re interested in hearing from Julie about forging an identity as an adult, learning to fend for yourself and developing character, you’re going to love this episode.


May 17

21 min 5 sec

This bonus episode is a recording of a live event hosted by Old Town Books. Join me in this conversation with Stephanie Schriock, the former president of EMILY’s List, and Christina Reynolds, vice president of communications for EMILY’s List. We discuss getting women elected to office, as well as how to ascend the ranks of the corporate ladder and finally break through that stupid glass ceiling.


May 14

35 min 24 sec

This week I am joined by Whitney Herrington, an HR pro who founded Kith Republic. In my conversation with Whitney, we discuss her new company, the need for workplace coaching for professionals at all levels and the likely future of workplace coaching for needs beyond the world of HR. Listen to this episode to learn how you and your team could benefit from workplace coaching.


May 10

22 min 33 sec

This week I’m joined by a fellow author, podcaster, speaker and coach, Andy Storch. In this conversation, Andy shares his experience in talent development and what led him to launch his online group, the Talent Development Think Tank Community. He also shares some ideas from his book, “Own Your Career Own Your Life,” and the challenges of launching a book while undergoing treatment for cancer. If you’re ready to shift your career and your mindset, this episode is for you.


May 3

24 min 23 sec

This week, I am joined by a dear friend of mine, Doug Shaw, who is a visual artist rooted in music, self-care and speaking truth to power. Doug runs an award-winning project called “We Are All Artists,” which encourages community engagement through workshops, pop-up exhibitions and a weekly free art drop, where he hides a piece of art in his neighborhood for strangers to find. In this episode, we discuss the importance of prioritizing mental well-being and self-care, Doug’s passion project that transformed a community, and the importance of embracing our own creativity.


Apr 26

26 min 21 sec

My guest this week is John Register, a change-mindset warrior who helps business leaders and individuals overcome adversity and fear, embrace a “new normal” mindset and win at life. John is one of those people who has an inspirational story that leaves you feeling ready to transform your outlook on life. In our conversation, John shares his story of adapting to his “new normal,” the power of storytelling, the dangers of ableism, and what all that has to do with the world of work.


Apr 19

24 min 6 sec

My guest today is Sharlyn Lauby, author of the absolutely essential blog HR Bartender and president of ITM Group Inc. I’ve known Sharlyn for well over a decade, and I can say that her body of work just keeps getting better. Not only is she an amazing author, speaker and consultant, but she also recently became a fellow podcast host. Listen to our conversation about the ways that onboarding can be done more effectively and how companies can offer better management support.


Apr 12

21 min 1 sec

My guest this week is Matt Johnson, a communications and change management expert. His story is rich: He’s toured in a punk rock band, worked at the Pentagon during the Obama administration and is now head of communications for Markel International. He’s also the author of a fantastic book, “Work Songs.” In it, Matt argues that song is something that is all but absent from our modern work lives. Listen to our conversation about the value that songs and storytelling provide, how they relate to the idea of perseverance, and the ways that we can tell an effective story within the corporate world to give us work songs for the modern era.


Apr 5

28 min 9 sec

In celebration of a great Women’s History Month here on Punk Rock HR and everywhere else, I’m super excited to bring you another bonus episode to close out the month of March. My guest is Amy Guth, a Chicago-based writer, speaker, journalist, author and all-around badass. There’s still a lot that we need to accomplish in terms of how we treat women, the systemic issues at play and what we can do about it going forward. And I believe Amy can get us there.


Mar 31

27 min 52 sec

My guest today is Ching Valdezco. She’s a global learning consultant with Exec-Comm and helps leaders and teams learn to communicate, influence and negotiate effectively. I met Ching several years ago at a conference in San Jose, and the audience (myself included) was absolutely wowed by Ching’s tips and tricks on how they could successfully negotiate their worth. It was a real pleasure to connect with her once again and hear her share truly insightful information on how you can begin sharpening your negotiation skills today. March is Women’s History Month, and all month long, Punk Rock HR is bringing you conversations with women who are fixing the world of work. In this episode, listen to my conversation with the negotiating goddess herself, Ching Valdezco.


Mar 29

24 min 32 sec

I’m sure you’re familiar with that feeling you get when you’re driving along peacefully and, out of nowhere, your GPS will start shouting, “Recalculating!” Sometimes this is exactly what your career path feels like, as well.    My guest this week, Lindsey Pollak, illustrates this analogy perfectly. Lindsey is a career and workplace expert and a New York Times bestselling author with a new book titled “Recalculating: Navigate Your Career Through the Changing World of Work.” Sit back and enjoy my discussion with Lindsey about what it means to recalculate, the useful steps you need to take when going through a career change, and why mindset is key.


Mar 22

23 min 39 sec

My guest this week is Rebecca Weaver, a former HR leader who is now the founder and CEO of HRuprise, a platform that connects workers who are navigating challenging issues with independent HR coaches. Sit back and enjoy my conversation with Rebecca about the challenges she faced in her career, what she hopes to accomplish through HRuprise and how HR has the opportunity to be part of the solution when done correctly.


Mar 15

19 min 14 sec

My guest this week, Claire Wasserman, is the founder and author of Ladies Get Paid, a platform that helps women advance professionally and financially. The umbrella of her organization covers an event series, an active Slack group and now a book, providing many opportunities for women to share knowledge and support each other. Listen in to find out more about Ladies Get Paid, as well as our discussion about equal pay for equal work and advancing the rights of working women and mothers.


Mar 8

20 min 18 sec

I’m excited to bring you this special bonus episode of Punk Rock HR, in which I speak with a woman in HR who I really respect, Susan Richards. She’s the CEO and founder of Sapient Insights Group and, above all else, describes herself as a “people fixer.” Susan and I talked about how investments in technology can help counter employee burnout, as well as the importance of focusing on well-being as part of the employee experience. Listen to our conversation and find out how HR leaders can take the lessons we learned in 2020 with them into the future.


Mar 5

12 min 57 sec

My guest is Kanika Tolver, founder and CEO of Career Rehab, a coaching company that helps people renovate themselves and find their dream jobs. She’s also the author of “Career Rehab: Rebuild Your Personal Brand and Rethink the Way You Work,” a fantastic book where she outlines her approach to helping others be the architects of both their careers and their lives. Listen to hear Kanika talk about what Career Rehab is all about, what it means to be a corporate rebel and how she sees the future of work for women in 2021 and beyond.


Mar 1

20 min 40 sec

My guest is Meredith Fineman, author of the book “Brag Better: Master the Art of Fearless Self-Promotion.” She offers an effortless and unapologetic approach to self-promotion and championing yourself. Listen to our conversation about her amazing book and the parts that go into an effective brag. If you’ve ever been told that bragging on your accomplishments should be avoided at all costs, you’ll learn from Meredith about why this advice couldn’t be any worse.


Feb 22

22 min 32 sec

On this episode of Punk Rock HR, we chat with current and former Limeade team members about returning to the basics of HR, what HR can do to improve employee experience during COVID and beyond, and a bit on the culture of care at Limeade and what it’s like to be a valued member of the team.


Feb 15

33 min 28 sec

On this episode of Punk Rock HR, Torin Ellis joins me in a conversation that takes a deeper look at diversity and inclusion than what you may have experienced in those training exercises that simply checked off corporate boxes. Listen to find out why he isn’t afraid to challenge people to have conversations that push them out of their comfort zones.


Feb 8

29 min 57 sec

My guest is Charlie Gilkey, author of “Start Finishing.” Charlie has deep expertise in helping people get out of the weeds to finish things that matter. In today’s show, we cover procrastination, inertia, the excuses we make to ourselves: all of the things that come together to prevent us from completing the things we were meant to do on this planet. If you’re someone who’s nurturing big ideas in 2021 and beyond, sit back and learn from my friend Charlie Gilkey.


Feb 1

24 min 59 sec

My guest is Katharine Manning, author of “The Empathetic Workplace.” For 15 years, Katharine advised the Justice Department on victims’ issues, working on some of the most challenging cases you’ve heard of. Now, Katharine uses her expertise to advise governments, educational institutions and corporations on how to prepare for and respond to trauma. If you’re a leader and wonder how you can be there for your workforce, sit tight and enjoy my conversation with Katharine Manning.


Jan 28

30 min 39 sec

My guest is Lars Schmidt, author of “Redefining HR.” Lars is my friend, and I’m incredibly proud of him. But more importantly, I love the way he thinks — especially about the future of work. So if you’re interested in a conversation where someone’s actually positive about human resources, I know you’ll enjoy our conversation. Sit back and learn from my friend Lars Schmidt.


Jan 25

27 min 9 sec

My guest is Ita Olsen, founder and CEO at Convey Clearly, and she’s here to offer advice for communicating with confidence. If you’ve ever wondered, “How do I improve the sound of my voice?” or thought, “I hate my voice and I want to fix it,” then we recorded this episode just for you. So sit back and enjoy my conversation with Ita Olsen.


Jan 21

23 min 49 sec

My guest is Zoë Harte, chief people officer at Upwork, and she’s here to answer our burning questions about the future of work. Zoë is passionate about the gig economy, remote work, and diversity and inclusion — all of the issues facing a critical inflection point in the coming months. So sit tight, enjoy the conversation, and prepare to face the future.


Jan 18

20 min 49 sec

My guest is Mylena Sutton, the founder of Voltage Vista LLC and a self-proclaimed leadership development fanatic. Mylena’s entrepreneurial story resonates with me — and will for so many of you, too. If you’re thinking of leaving your corporate HR job to take up your own consulting business in 2021, we recorded this just for you.


Jan 14

28 min 59 sec

On this episode of Punk Rock HR, I’m turning the tables on myself. Author and thought leadership coach Michael Bungay Stanier interviews me about my new book, “Betting on You: How to Put Yourself First and (Finally) Take Control of Your Career.”


Jan 11

29 min 53 sec

My guest is Kim Foley, a media and communications consultant and author of “Virtual Meetings With Power and Presence: The Ultimate Guide to Online Meetings.” She works with clients to help them look amazing on Zoom, and she shares her Zoom tips and tricks to make sure you do, too. After all, a great Zoom presence isn’t just about looking great — it’s about communicating your ideas clearly and with credibility.


Jan 7

20 min 33 sec

In our first episode of 2021, I’m joined by Kate Yuan. During the day, she works in business development at Alibaba Cloud. However, on the weekends, she does something even more important: She volunteers for her county’s suicide hotline. She joins me to discuss her experiences as a volunteer and how you can discuss suicidal thoughts and ideations with someone. Please note: This episode of Punk Rock HR covers topics like depression, anxiety and suicide. If you are sensitive to these topics, this episode may not be for you. If you are thinking about suicide, are worried about a friend or loved one, or would like emotional support, the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is available 24/7 at 800-273-8255.


Jan 5

25 min 40 sec

Punk Rock HR is underwritten by Headspace for Work. In this last episode of 2020, I’m going to be talking about Pfizer. That’s right, I’m talking about the global drug company, my former employer, and the place where I decided to end my career in human resources. Back in 2012, Mitt Romney made the statement that corporations are people. At the time, I hated it because I loved Barack Obama. But, in retrospect, he was right. Companies are made up of people--good, bad, and indifferent. Just because you have a bad experience at a company doesn’t mean that reflects the company’s overall sentiment or culture. Today I’m discussing my own experience at Pfizer. I’m taking you through some of my deepest struggles and eventual realizations about what I had to do to create the life I wanted. I learned that if I wanted something bad enough, I had to be willing to invest in it and I want to share that same message with all of you today. Tune in to hear how I went from being miserable in a corporate job I hated to pursuing my dream to fix work. In this episode you’ll hear: My biggest struggles throughout my time working in human resources at Pfizer. When and why I decided to end my career there for good. The problem with not investing in ourselves. All about my experience getting lap band surgery in Mexico. Why it is so critical to do whatever it takes to improve our well-being. Resources from this episode: Laurie on Instagram Laurie on LinkedIn Read more from Laurie Work with Laurie Betting on You: How to Put Yourself First and (Finally) Take Control of Your Career If you enjoyed this episode, we’ve created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go over to our podcast page at https://laurieruettimann.com/podcast/ to download it.  *** EPISODE CREDITS: If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment. He helps thought leaders, influencers, executives, HR professionals, recruiters, lawyers, realtors, bloggers, coaches, and authors create, launch, and produce podcasts that grow their business and impact the world. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com


Dec 2020

13 min 12 sec