The World of Intelligence


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In this episode of the Janes podcast, Tim Marshall, journalist and author of The Power of Geography, in conversation with Terry Pattar, examine how our politics, demographics, economies and societies are determined by geography. Tim Marshall wrote the international best selling book Prisoners of Geography. Tim was diplomatic editor at Sky News and has also worked for the BBC and LBC/IRN radio. He has reported from 40 countries and covered conflicts in Croatia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Israel.

Oct 28

42 min 44 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast, Lt Col Langley Sharp shares lessons learned in leadership from his career in the Parachute Regiment which has seen him deployed to Northern Ireland, Macedonia, Afghanistan and Iraq. Among his many varied roles, he has led a counter-insurgency Task Force operation, commanded a Parachute Regiment Battalion, and delivered the Ministry of Defence’s training programme for the London 2012 Olympics, for which he was awarded an MBE.Lt Col Langley Sharp is the author of The Habit of Excellence; the official British Army book on what makes its leadership so successful, and how to become a better leader yourself - whatever your field.

Oct 21

45 min 41 sec

In this episode we discuss the use of various cryptocurrencies in terrorist financing in the Middle East and Africa. Ahmed Buckley is an independent expert serving on the Analytical Support and Monitoring Team supporting the UN Security Council Committee concerning sanctions. An ACAMS Certified Global Sanctions Specialist, Ahmed co-designed and delivered trainings on sanctions implementation and compliance to national authorities, financial institutions, as well as to trainees at NATO’s Defense Against Terrorism Centre of Excellence. He co-drafted the Joint Report on Actions Taken by Member States to Disrupt Terrorism Finance pursuant to UNSC resolution 2462 (2019). He was previously Deputy Director of the Global Counterterrorism Unit at Egypt’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and served diplomatic postings in Pakistan and Canada.

Oct 13

36 min 8 sec

In this podcast episode, Harry Kemsley OBE and Sean Corbett CB MBE talk to Terry Busch, Executive Advisor at Capax Analytics and Former Chief Technology Officer for the DIA's High Priority Machine-Assisted Rapid Repository Program (MARS). In this discussion we cover the increasing relevance and utility of Open-Source Intelligence (OSINT) in support of the defence and security community. Specifically, the expert panel discuss challenges and opportunities of incorporating OSINT into the defence intelligence environment.

Oct 1

45 min 5 sec

In this podcast we speak to Dr Michael Innes about counter-terrorism. We cover the concepts of 'sanctuaries' and 'safe havens' in the context of America´s post-9/11 discourse.Dr Michael Innes is Director of the Conflict Records Unit and a Visiting Senior Research Fellow in the Department of War Studies, King's College London. He is the author of Streets Without Joy: A Political History of Sanctuary and War, 1959-2009. Streets is his fifth book-length publication.

Sep 28

57 min 13 sec

In this episode we speak to Adam Hadley on understanding and countering terrorist use of the internet.Adam Hadley is the CEO of London-based data science consultancy QuantSpark and Founder of the Online Harms Foundation which implements Tech Against Terrorism, a public-private partnership launched by the global tech sector and the UN in 2017. Adam is a leading commentator on the role of analytics and data science in society and business, digital transformation, social change through technology, and supporting the tech sector in tackling the terrorist use of the internet. 

Sep 6

31 min 21 sec

Lee Wylde MBE is a former UK Military Intelligence (OPMI) and CAPDEV specialist and first soldier to go through the Military Data Science Operator program. Lee developed intelligence focused solutions for UK Gov (during COVID-19) and FVEY community. In this episode we discuss how to produce effective open-source intelligence (OSINT), the benefits of automation in intelligence and the future of OSINT.

Aug 20

25 min 12 sec

In this episode of the Janes Podcast we speak to Erin Sikorsky, Deputy Director of the Center for Climate and Security (CCS), about using Open-Source Intelligence (OSINT) for 'decision advantage' when it comes to the climate crisis and impact for national security.

Jul 28

45 min 30 sec

In this podcast episode Harry Kemsley OBE, President of the Government and National Security at Janes joins Air Marshall (ret'd) Sean Corbett CB, RAF and Air Cdre (ret'd) Rick Keir, RAAF to discuss the key challenges to international security in the Indo-Pacific region.

Jul 22

38 min 55 sec

In the latest episode of the Janes podcast we speak to Rob Dartnall, Director of Intelligence and CEO at Security Alliance, about the cyber aspects of China's 14th Five Year Plan (2021–2025) as well as discussing global cyber threat intelligence insights.

Jul 19

40 min 52 sec

In the latest episode of the Janes podcast we speak to Ellen E. McCarthy, former Assistant Secretary of State for the Bureau of Intelligence and Research, about the story of William Joseph “Wild Bill” Donovan and how the original vision from "Wild Bill" can inspire the intelligence community.

Jul 14

37 min 24 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast, we talk to Peter Martin, a defence and intelligence reporter at Bloomberg, Peter discusses his new book, which charts the roots of Chinese 'wolf warrior' diplomacy. He shares his insights into the online element of this diplomacy, as well his thoughts on the future of Chinese diplomatic influence.Twitter: @PeterMartin_PCM

Jul 9

29 min 54 sec

In this episode of the World of Intelligence, Harry and Sean discuss the evolving landscape of OSINT using interconnected and integrated intelligence.Janes, the trusted global agency for open-source defence intelligence is proud to introduce Janes Capella, connecting millions of assured data points across Janes foundational intelligence, bringing the ability to integrate and contextualise multiple sources at high speed to deliver the single source of truth.Optimise your mission with Janes Capella:

Jun 28

23 min 53 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast we talk to Tim Clancy, the founder and CEO of Dialectic Simulations Consulting and a researcher focused on reducing violence and instability. In particular we discuss Tim's model for understanding violent radicalisation and how this can be applied in practice.

Jun 11

30 min 54 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast Terry Pattar and Kathryn Haahr-Escolano discuss analytic standards, OSINT and the Intelligence Community Directive 203 (ICD 203). Kathryn Haahr-Escolano has worked in the US Intelligence Community, and is a practitioner of the ODNI/AIS Analytic Tradecraft standards and their application to the craft of intelligence analysis and the OSINT lifecycle for government, academic, and international clients.

Apr 30

1 hr 2 min

This episode of the Janes podcast defines and explores examples of non-traditional threats and looks at how national security can effectively react to these non-traditional threats.

Apr 19

17 min 46 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast Terry Pattar talks to Joe Robinson, CEO of Defence at Improbable about how advances in the games industry are being utilised by the defence and intelligence community by creating virtual worlds to prepare and plan for future scenarios.

Apr 15

50 min 14 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit and Brian Raymond, Vice President of Government at Primer discuss the global impact of machine learning and the future of national security.

Apr 8

39 min 38 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast Terry Pattar discusses strategic thinking, diversity of thought and innovation with Carmen Medina, co-author of the book Rebels At Work: A Handbook for Leading Change from Within.

Mar 26

43 min 10 sec

China has achieved expansive military-technology advancement over the past 15 years but 2021 represents the start of a new era of progression. During its 14th Five Year Plan (2021–25), China is targeting accelerated modernisation and the development of the disruptive capabilities that will aim to support its longer-term bid to achieve ‘world class’ military status. This podcast explores the breadth of China’s military capabilities and anticipated advancements during the 14th Five Year Plan and beyond.

Mar 17

44 min 32 sec

In this episode Terry Pattar speaks to Luke Shabro, Deputy Director of the Mad Scientist Initiative to discuss thinking about the future. The Mad Scientist Initiative is a U.S. Army initiative and a community of action that continually explores the future through collaborative partnerships and continuous dialogue with academia, industry and government.

Mar 6

54 min 53 sec

This episode looks into the increasing ambiguity between the actions of state and non-state actors, the implications for intelligence generally and the role OSINT can play to meet the challenges.

Mar 3

16 min 34 sec

Most Open Source Intelligence training focuses on tradecraft, and rightfully so. Less common is the inclusion of other factors that impact the ability of an analyst’s ability to deliver effective open source intelligence Products. In in this conversation Cynthia Hetherington, Founder and President of the Hetherington Group and Kyle McGroarty of Janes Intelligence Unit discuss Cynthia’s experience of open source research, from physical archives as a librarian, to managing research, and providing security investigations to a wide range of customers. The success of the Hetherington Group and Cynthia’s enthusiasm for the subject also inspired her the establishment of OSMOSICON, an annual conference for practitioners of open source intelligence. OSMOSISCON this year will be held from 10 to 12 October in San Diego.

Feb 26

53 min 8 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast Terry Pattar and prolific author Peter W Singer discuss how stories can carry across real-world lessons in intelligence and how fictional scenarios can help in exploring future operating environments.

Feb 24

52 min 11 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast, Eliot Higgins and Terry Pattar explore the world of online investigations and the future of conflict research with Bellingcat.

Feb 17

52 min 55 sec

How can we effectively plan for future scenarios? This episode looks at how to run a wargame, what is required and what the key benefits are.

Feb 12

33 min 13 sec

In this episode we dive into the world of online jihadism with Mina al-Lami, who leads BBC Monitoring’s jihadist media team. We discuss platforms, the online dynamics between groups and their supporters, and where this extremist online community may be heading next.

Feb 2

19 min 18 sec

Harry Kemsley OBE and Sean Corbett CB MBE provide their first monthly update on the current differences between classified and unclassified intelligence, as well as rounding up key themes such as looking at the world through a Covid-19 lens, the changing nature of OSINT and the emergence of hybrid warfare.

Jan 26

21 min 54 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast we talk to Naama Kates, an investigative journalist who researches the involuntary celibate (incel) community. We discuss key concepts that form the incel worldview, where incels are found online, and the violent fringes of the community. Learn more about how Janes can support you and your organisation with social media research here:

Jan 13

32 min 2 sec

In this episode of the Janes podcast we talk to Dr. Nilda Garcia, who researches serious organised crime with a focus on Mexico. We discuss the online dimension of Mexico’s drug war and how actors involved in the conflict have used social media to further their objectives.

Dec 2020

48 min 28 sec

How can defence departments and militaries better prepare for the next war? This question cuts to the heart of current challenges in improving defence technology and intelligence and how government procurement needs to adapt to deliver timely, user-driven, innovation. Terry Pattar and Davey Gibian of Janes are joined by Tyler Sweatt, Vice President for Mission Integration at Second Front Systems, to discuss how a 'failure of imagination' is hampering efforts to adopt advanced intelligence and next generation technology for warfighters.

Nov 2020

1 hr 3 min

Producing high quality intelligence depends on discerning meaning from information - being able to describe what is happening, why, and what will happen next. This is the art of the intelligence officer and in this episode of the Janes podcast we talk to Sir David Omand, former head of GCHQ and the UK's first security and intelligence coordinator, about his new book, "How Spies Think: Ten Lessons in Intelligence" and his model for how individual analysts can produce better intelligence. The lessons and skills discussed here are just as valuable for anyone who wants to apply intelligence methods to making better decisions in all areas of life.

Nov 2020

57 min 1 sec

In episode 25 of The World of Intelligence, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by Chad Peltier, Data and Integration Analyst at Janes to discuss recent research into China's expeditionary capabilities.

Nov 2020

57 min 5 sec

Innovation in intelligence has never been more vital to ensure organisations are not left behind, which raises several questions: How does innovation occur and how can national security organisations and others innovate in the field of intelligence? How can organisations continue innovating as collaboration becomes more difficult during the coronavirus pandemic? In this podcast episode the Janes Intelligence Unit addresses these questions with Davey Gibian, Head of Innovation at Janes, who describes the crucial elements of innovation and explains why collaboration does not equate to innovation and why failure is essential.

Oct 2020

31 min 4 sec

In episode 23 of The World of Intelligence, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by John Ferris, Author of Behind the Enigma: The Authorised History of GCHQ, Britain’s Secret Cyber-Intelligence Agency.

Oct 2020

52 min 49 sec

In episode 22 of The World of Intelligence, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by Robert Maxwell, Owner of FinINTEL Solutions to discuss the role of Financial Intelligence (FININT).

Oct 2020

1 hr 8 min

In episode 21 of The World of Intelligence, Terry Pattar discusses with former US diplomat David Rundell, a foremost expert on Saudi Arabia and author of Vision or Mirage: Saudi Arabia at the Crossroads, the political, economic, and social changes taking place in the Kingdom and how the information environment is changing and what it means for analysts conducting research on the country.

Oct 2020

1 hr 11 min

In episode 20 of The World of Intelligence, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by Nick Waters, Senior Investigator at Bellingcat to discuss the Beirut port explosion from an OSINT perspective.

Sep 2020

39 min 58 sec

In episode 19 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by Alison Killing, discussing her recent investigation that identified camps in China where Uighur Muslims are being interned.

Sep 2020

56 min 49 sec

In episode 18 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit (JIU) is joined by Alison Evans also of the JIU, to discuss the latest developments in the OSINT world with our guest Evanna Hu, Partner and CEO at Omelas.

Sep 2020

1 hr 9 min

In episode 17 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit (JIU) is joined by Colm Philips and Kyle McGroaty also of the JIU, to discuss the latest developments in the OSINT world. They also explain in detail the new Janes modular and progressive self-study course that can be completed independently. For more information go to

Aug 2020

46 min 40 sec

In episode 16 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Mark Wilson, a consultant in the Janes Intelligence Unit, is joined by John Gray, the co-founder of the social network analysis tool Mentionmapp.   They discuss approaches to tracking disinformation in an increasingly diverse online landscape, and also talk about how the tactics of those who spread disinformation may evolve in the future.

Jul 2020

41 min 21 sec

In episode 15 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by Cindy Otis, expert on disinformation, to discuss the global and national security implications of disinformation and what can be done to mitigate the effects.   City Otis is a former CIA officer, national security commentator, and a disinformation and cybersecurity expert. She is the author of TRUE OR FALSE: A CIA ANALYST'S GUIDE TO SPOTTING FAKE NEWS, coming out on July 28th. For more information on OSINT training delivered by Janes go to

Jul 2020

55 min 47 sec

In episode 14 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit is joined by Samantha North, expert on disinformation, to discuss group conflict and tribalism within current topics such as Brexit and Covid-19 and how disinformation and misinformation is impacting this.   For more information on OSINT training go to

Jul 2020

39 min 13 sec

In episode 13 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit and Mark Wilson, Janes Intelligence Unit Consultant are joined by Judy King, Editorial Director at BBC Monitoring to discuss trends and challenges of the shifting information environment. For more information on OSINT training go to

Jun 2020

42 min 51 sec

In episode 12 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit, and Dr. Martha Whitesmith, research fellow at The Department of War Studies, King’s College London discuss whether or not structured analysis techniques provide any clear benefits to intelligence analysts. They also explore the challenges of cognitive bias and confirmation bias occurring within intelligence analysis. For more information on OSINT training go to

Jun 2020

1 hr 1 min

In episode 11 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Terry Pattar, head of the Janes Intelligence Unit, and David Kilcullen, President of Cordillera Applications and author of 'The Dragons and the Snakes' discuss the diversity of strategic global security threats and how Western military and government planners and decision-makers need to adapt to monitoring indicators of "liminal warfare," especially as geopolitical competition increases following the coronavirus pandemic.    To find out more about Janes threat assessment visit

Jun 2020

1 hr 5 min

In episode 10 of the World of Intelligence podcast, Harry Kemsley OBE, Global Vice-President at Janes, and AVM (ret’d) Sean Corbett MBE discuss the growing value and utility of open-source intelligence in assessing strategic threats in a time of global uncertainty. To find out more about the threat assessment detailed in this podcast, visit

May 2020

43 min 25 sec

For more information on OSINT training go to In episode 9, Janes Intelligence Unit consultant Mark Wilson is joined by Peter King, an extremist media consultant and co-founder of IbexMind, which helps organisations build resilience to the affects of exposure to distressing content. They discuss a range of practical techniques that OSINT practitioners can apply – both on an individual basis and in teams - to keep mentally healthy while conducting investigations, and also talk about the impact of social media research on mental health.

May 2020

44 min 42 sec

In episode 8 Terry Pattar, head of the Jane’s Intelligence Unit, is joined by Micah Hoffman, president of    They discuss the current state of the art in OSINT and how practitioners are adapting to changes in the information environment, including their experiences with OSINT training and the raft of current OSINT tools, as well as the sense of community and advice-sharing within OSINT.

Mar 2020

52 min 26 sec