Ep 161: Summit state of play — Polish election aftermath — 'Tribalization' of Europe
By POLITICO Europe
The EU's budget and recovery plan, the Polish election outcome and the "tribalization" of Europe are all up for debate in this week's episode. POLITICO's Lili Bayer has the latest take on where things stand as EU leaders gather at the negotiating table to wrangle over the budget and recovery package. It's an unusual summit with no reporters, no handshakes and some €1.8 trillion at stake. If a deal is struck, we'll bring you a special extra edition of the podcast to break down exactly what it all means. Polish President Andrzej Duda won reelection by a slim margin on Sunday. POLITICO's Andrew Gray, Rym Momtaz and Matthew Karnitschnig debate what his victory means for Poland and the EU. Marlene Wind, professor of politics at the University of Copenhagen, is our special guest to discuss her new book "The Tribalization of Europe." The book explores movements across the Continent that have "pulled up the drawbridge" in recent years, according to Wind, leaving the European project in jeopardy. Wind argues the EU needs to get tougher on upholding basic principles — which, she says, means leaders must get serious about linking EU cash to respect for the rule of law. Wind makes the case for academics, journalists and citizens to be more vocal in speaking up in defense of liberal values — while resisting the temptation to form an inward-looking tribe themselves. She also previews what her home country of Denmark wants from the budget negotiations.