In this episode we attempt to dissect what being an indie artist is compared to being signed?? Is the product, network or strategy based? The rabbit hole is real but we haffi try. We then look at the shift in culture and relationship between the artist and the label with Frank Ocean's stick and move on Def Jam as our case study. Concluded with our tracks of the week this is a new dynamic we wanna add to the pod so let us know your thoughts and recommendations.