Austin Kleon on Writing, Creativity and The Importance of Idleness

By Ali & Taimur Abdaal

This is an 'inbetweenasode' and features an interview Ali did with Austin Kleon as part of his Deep Dive series last month. Austin Kleon is the bestselling author of a trilogy of books about creativity and originality in the digital age. His three books - Steal Like An Artist, Show Your Work! and Keep Going - have sold millions of copies around the world and inspired thousands of people, including myself. In their conversation they talked about Austin’s books, the value of writing daily and also the important balance between idleness and creativity.Books MentionedHow To Do NothingHow To Be IdleA Million Miles in a Thousand YearsFinite and Infinite GamesDocumentaries MentionedSupermensch - The Legend of Shep Gordon--------------------------------------------------------------------Sponsored by SkillshareThis episode is kindly supported by Skillshare. Sign up at us a ReviewIf you enjoy listening to the podcast, we'd love for you to leave us a review on iTunes / Apple Podcasts. Here's a link that works even if you're not on an iPhone :) Send us an Audio MessageWe really want to include more listener comments and questions in our episodes. If you've got any thoughts on this episode, or if you've got a conundrum or question you'd like us to discuss, send an audio file / voice note to For any non-audio comments, drop us a tweet or DM on Twitter - ---What is this? Not Overthinking is a podcast about happiness, creativity, and the human condition. We talk about things to help us think, do, and be better. Things like social interaction, lifestyle design, mental models... Things that are hard to examine, but important to explore. And hopefully, things that make for a fun and interesting chat every week.Follow Not Overthinking on Twitter: Who are we? Ali is a junior doctor and YouTuber working in Cambridge, UK. He makes videos about medicine, technology, productivity and lifestyle design. His links: YouTube, Blog, Newsletter, InstagramTaimur is a data scientist and writer, working on his own startup Causal. He writes on his blog and as a columnist for Medium. His links: Blog, Twitter, Medium, InstagramSee Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at

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