Phil Jordan is a former infantry Marine turned disaster relief agent. We talk about the debilitating and mysterious illness that left him unable to walk and how confronting his own mortality led him Costa Rica, where he drank an elixir that practically cured him in an instant. Phil is brutally honest about the lingering effects of his drug abuse after he got out of the military and we talk about how and why he finally started to live clean(er). We also discuss his dropping out of college and how much anxiety he experienced getting back into the classroom after his time in the Marines. The sum of these experiences is ultimately about change and separating ones identity from their work, no matter how important their job may seem. In addition to that, we discuss how obscure “home” feels when the reason you left was to never return. For almost two months now Phil has been doing what he believes is “what’s next” for him, working as a disaster relief agent for Team Rubicon. His excitement for the job led Phil to apply for Team Rubicon’s exclusive Clay Hunt Fellowship. At the time of this recording is application was being considered by the board. *UPDATE* As of today, Phil was denied the the Clay Hunt Fellowship. But he’s undeterred and has recently decided to move to Houston, where he can continue to work with Team Rubicon and prove to them, for however long it takes, that he deserves the fellowship. As this journey continues for Phil, I’m hopeful that his resiliency carries him to another great chapter.